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Old 12-27-2010, 05:58 PM   #1
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Images in files/books and Firmware 1.8.2 on original Kobo

Just a quick question regarding images and firmware 1.8.X on the original Kindle.

I have purchased an image heavy book (Nikon D300s Digital Field Guide) to compare the rendering on the iPad Kobo App and the original Kobo. Within the app, the images are essentially the same as in the printed book.

On the Kobo running an old version of the firmware there were no images. I expected that. But running 1.8.2 there are still no images.

I'll admit to not looking inside the file, but I was expecting that the downloaded book file was the same, but the older FW on the Kobo could not display the images. I expected that updating the FW on the Kobo would have enabled the embedded images to be visible.

This is getting longer than I expected - but to that quick question - what's the best way of method of peeking inside the Kobo to see if it's a different version of the ebook (a no image version, specifically for the Kobo)?
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:49 PM   #2
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The file on the Kobo e-reader is a stripped file.

And you're going to have some trouble examining the file directly. It's buried inside the Kobo software. More specifically, it's in a SQLite database.
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I bought Patti Smith's Just Kids and later discovered that the paper version had pictures that are not included in the digi file. They are apparently not in the Kindle version either. It made me wonder if it is a device limitation, or related to copyright.
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Did you re-download the book from the Kobo bookstore after the upgrade to 1.8.2? (THis is presuming of course that it is in Kobo format, and not in Adobe ePub).
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PeterT,

No I didn't. How does one re-download just one book and get it over to the Kobo?

I did an individual download on the desktop, and opened it in ADE, it looks fine there (and has all the images).

I then connected the Kobo to the desktop and updated the library.

No joy. Any suggestions from anyone?
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:33 PM   #7
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The file on the Kobo e-reader is a stripped file.

And you're going to have some trouble examining the file directly. It's buried inside the Kobo software. More specifically, it's in a SQLite database.
Hi Nate,

I hate SQL.. arrgh. Ah well.

You mentioned that the file for the Kobo is stripped, what does the stripping? Obviously the file as viewed on the iPad, in the desktop reader and in the external ADE application has the images. Is it the Kobo desktop/sync app that strips the images from the files when they are sync'ed to the physical Kobo reader?
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:32 AM   #8
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There are two distinct formats in use. I think (but am not certain) that the iPad and other platforms make use of the so-called kePub format. This you can get onto your Kobo IF you use the Kobo Desktop.

The ADE version is in what is called the ePub format.

For the heck of it, try launching the Kobo Desktop and doing an Update library there. That should bring the KePub format down to your PC and make it available in Kobo Desktop (but NOT in ADE). See if the diagrams are there.

If they are then try doing a SYNC from Kobo Desktop with the Kobo attached. This should in turn transfer the KePub version to the Kobo.

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I bought Patti Smith's Just Kids and later discovered that the paper version had pictures that are not included in the digi file.
Ah, someone remembers Patti Smith! Maybe she removed pictures,
when she had seen they had not remind of her in early 80s?
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The file on the Kobo e-reader is a stripped file.

And you're going to have some trouble examining the file directly. It's buried inside the Kobo software. More specifically, it's in a SQLite database.
I thought 1.8.2 banished the SQLite database. At least for newly downloaded books. I haven't updated mine yet, and won't be doing it just yet.
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@artig: the update for the original Kobo doesn't banish the sqlite Db, but kepub books are no longer stored there. The preloaded books will still be there unless one does the whole Db,images and kepub file replacement thing.

Kepub files are, btw, ePUB formatted books with Kobo's proprietary DRM attached. Patti Smith's book doesn't have pictures in ADE ePUB, DRM free ePUB, or kepub formats.
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@artig: the update for the original Kobo doesn't banish the sqlite Db, but kepub books are no longer stored there.
Very minor point of clarification - with kepub, the actual book content is no longer in the sqlite DB, but the meta-data like chapter pointers, read status, bookmarks, etc. still is.
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