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Old 03-28-2010, 08:59 AM   #1
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My Kindle is just a few weeks old. I'd like to fill it with purchased ebooks, but wish to purchase the print book at the same time. Has Amazon ever given their customers a discount for buying both formats at once? Before anyone questions my motivation for owning both formats, let me explain that I am still a traditional book buyer. There is a feeling of safety knowing that one holds a physical copy of a book which is (basically) always accessible. With ebooks, one worries about hardware availability, network up-time issues, and even Amazon's status two decades from now. Insurance value is also a concern. Any users ever experience a fire destroying their Kindle and downloaded books? Other than getting a settlement for the reader, what are the odds of obtaining compensation for the ebooks? Surely, you can re-download the books from Amazon (good point), but what if you didn't, and just wanted an insurance settlement?
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:18 AM   #2
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I only buy ebooks for entertainment... such a novels... Reference/history books I buy in paper...

I might be worth it to send your recommendation to Amazon... I'm sure a lot of people would love the option...
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:29 AM   #3
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I think that would be worth it... Kinda like buying a DVD/BluRay and getting the digital copy for free... though I think it would be something to be taken up with the publishers and not Amazon
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Until the publishers come to some sort of an agreement, this probalby will not be realized.
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My Kindle is just a few weeks old. I'd like to fill it with purchased ebooks, but wish to purchase the print book at the same time.
If you have a need for technical books, I would highly suggest the O'Reilly online bookstore.
http://oreilly.com/store/

Many of their books are available in both physical and digital form. You can buy a bundle with both versions for about $5 more then the physical book alone. Additionally, I was able to email customer support and receive an upgrade to the digital versions of books I previously owned for about $5 as well.

Their eBooks are DRM free and the purchase grants access to every format it's available in (typically PDF, ePub, and Mobi (which is the Kindle's native format)).

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Has Amazon ever given their customers a discount for buying both formats at once?
Not at once, but also bear in mind that they handle Digital/eBook and physical purchases differently. There is no Digital cart to toss in both physical and digital copies of things, though I have wanted one from time to time. That said, I have seen them offer bundles, not only the "Digital Copy" Disc that ships with some BluRays and DVD's, but a "Buy this DVD/BluRay and we'll grant you immediate access to stream the movie on Amazon On Demand. I seem to recall them doing that for the release of The Watchmen if I recall.

They also claim to offer upgrades from, physical to digital (online) books, but I've never much particularly useful with it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...deId=110744011

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With ebooks, one worries about hardware availability, network up-time issues, and even Amazon's status two decades from now.
Bit rot is an issue with any digital media, but sadly DRM makes the problem that much worse (Remember the MSN Music Store? Google Video Store?...)
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Other than getting a settlement for the reader, what are the odds of obtaining compensation for the ebooks? Surely, you can re-download the books from Amazon (good point), but what if you didn't, and just wanted an insurance settlement?
In which case you would be guilty of insurance fraud since you would be trying to claim damages and loss (in this case the loss of the ebooks) that you did not actually sustain (since they are still theoretically available from Amazon for no additional charge, there was no actual "loss").
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Old 04-06-2010, 04:40 AM   #6
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Those in the scientific community need compelling reasons to switch to eReaders. Lack of "must have" publications in both ebook and pbook formats will delay the transition process. O'Reilly is to be commended for offering both formats now, but, in general, O'Reilly is not in the top tier of technical publishers. As certain Amazon reviewers have stated, the books are written in too chatty a manner. It would be nice to present a complex algorithm in its most simple terms, but O'Reilly's nutshell books just don't hack it, imho.

The second reason why I believe that today's eReaders are destined to remain in the periphery of reading devices for technical matter is the lack of good mobile pdf software and displays. Adobe Reader is the default application for reading pdf files. Yet, it looks as though most eReader manufacturers implement only a subset of the features that Adobe Reader provides. The iPad is not ready for prime time when it comes to pdf files. No application correctly renders a simple physics paper I cited in another thread. The Kindle 2 handles the paper properly (Einstein would be proud), but the only reading mode that is tolerable is landscape. K2 has problems with large pdf art books, and more often than not, you'll get a warning that not all elements of the page could be displayed. My conclusion after sampling the latest breed of eReaders is to keep your $750 laptops. They kill the eReaders in terms of value, on the vast number of technical documents in existence today. Who wants to read a document with missing or mangled elements?
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