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Old 03-14-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
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302's glare?

I keep reading that the 302's screen is, supposedly, almost like a mirror, with significant glare - or, at least, that it was the case with preview models, but that the screens would be replaced with better ones later.

Does anyone know more about that?

If I were to order a 302 from e.g. pocketgoods.de, would I be getting a model with a lot of glare or one with an improved screen?
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:02 AM   #2
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I keep reading that the 302's screen is, supposedly, almost like a mirror, with significant glare - or, at least, that it was the case with preview models, but that the screens would be replaced with better ones later.

Does anyone know more about that?

If I were to order a 302 from e.g. pocketgoods.de, would I be getting a model with a lot of glare or one with an improved screen?
Improved screen is for April or so. What you will get is the original 302 with an antiglare sheet thrown in that does work rather well. You can replace the original glare screen to a matte one once they're available.
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Yar-PocketBooker said he would announce it here when the new readers are in with matte screens for those of us waiting to order those.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:01 AM   #4
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Yar-PocketBooker said he would announce it here when the new readers are in with matte screens for those of us waiting to order those.
Yes. I guess there will be a first delivery of non-matte screens like in Europe. Yar?
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Since the 302 is apparently being sold already - and, as I understand it, right now it's the version with the reflective screen everywhere - this really should be addressed.

While I don't expect it to happen, the proper way to do it would be to make it clear which models come with the non-reflective screens, e.g. by naming them "302+" or at least making sure that it's otherwise clearly and visibly mentioned - on the body, or at least on the box.

Otherwise, if I order the 302, I'll really have no guarantee that what I'm clicking on will be the updated model with the proper screen.
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Since the 302 is apparently being sold already - and, as I understand it, right now it's the version with the reflective screen everywhere - this really should be addressed.

While I don't expect it to happen, the proper way to do it would be to make it clear which models come with the non-reflective screens, e.g. by naming them "302+" or at least making sure that it's otherwise clearly and visibly mentioned - on the body, or at least on the box.

Otherwise, if I order the 302, I'll really have no guarantee that what I'm clicking on will be the updated model with the proper screen.
The updated model will be the 602.
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Yes. I guess there will be a first delivery of non-matte screens like in Europe. Yar?
Yep. Lil-glary sreens go first. BTW, I'd say this glare doesn't bother me at all... it's like with the loud clicks on 360 - first folks were making so many waves about them, but after couple of days of playing with the device you simply don't notice them at all. The same thing with glare - it's more ado about it than the glare itself)))
But anyway, the matte screen will be nice)
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Yep. Lil-glary sreens go first. BTW, I'd say this glare doesn't bother me at all... it's like with the loud clicks on 360 - first folks were making so many waves about them, but after couple of days of playing with the device you simply don't notice them at all. The same thing with glare - it's more ado about it than the glare itself)))
But anyway, the matte screen will be nice)
Yes, I even prefer the "glare" screen because it is so amazingly sharp!
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:48 AM   #9
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Yep. Lil-glary sreens go first. BTW, I'd say this glare doesn't bother me at all... it's like with the loud clicks on 360 - first folks were making so many waves about them, but after couple of days of playing with the device you simply don't notice them at all. The same thing with glare - it's more ado about it than the glare itself)))
But anyway, the matte screen will be nice)
I agree with you. I read since february with my PB302, mostly in darkness with a reading lamp and I DO NOT SEE ANY REFLEXIONS at all!

Just try it yourself! If you do not like it and do not want to wait for exchange matt screen - just send it back.

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Old 03-16-2010, 02:43 PM   #10
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it's like with the loud clicks on 360 - first folks were making so many waves about them, but after couple of days of playing with the device you simply don't notice them at all. The same thing with glare - it's more ado about it than the glare itself)))
I beg to differ. Look at the images here. The display has glare and the background is dark (very grayish) in comparism to other current devices. "Lil-glary"?

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I agree with you. I read since weeks with my PB302 mostly in darkness with a reading lamp and I DO NOT SEE ANY REFLEXIONS at all!
You are using the antiglare sheet, right? Because without the antiglare sheet it's just impossible that you don't see any reflexions. Even with the antiglare sheet i doubt that one does not see any reflections. It's just physically impossible.

Well, i know that the matte screens will be available in some weeks and the antiglare sheets are fairly good (even if i was not able to install it air bubble-free) but i'm really surprised about some responses here. Imho a very glary screen is not a "non-issue" and it should has been addressed before mass-production was started.

Anyway, with a good(!) matte screen the device could become one of my favoured reading devices.
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I agree with you. I read since weeks with my PB302 mostly in darkness with a reading lamp and I DO NOT SEE ANY REFLEXIONS at all!

Just try it yourself! If you do not like it and do not want to wait for exchange matt screen - just send it back.
I think you're exaggerating (a lot).

Speaking as someone who has no emotional investment in the 302, I have to say that the screen doesn't bother me either. I really have no reason not to abandon the 302 (if the screen bothered me), and I'm still using it.

P.S. Coming from me, the above is a ringing endorsement.

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It is a little bit difficult to take pictures in this light conditions. So I could not set the sharpeness correctly. But, as you can see - no reflections in my particular reading surrounding (in my bed tonight)


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It is a little bit difficult to take pictures in this light conditions. So I could not set the sharpeness correctly. But, as you can see - no reflections in my particular reading surrounding (in my bed tonight)
Look at the photos I posted over here:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69433

Even though the unit I have is _that_ reflective, I really don't mind.
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I want one of these. Bad!

It looks a lot more matte than my Sony 600.
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It isn't - but the display of the PB302 is sharper than the display of the PRS-600.
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