which format will win?

renareto · 02-19-2010, 05:22 PM

Hi all,
I would have some opinion about the ebook format that would be the standard in next future.
I know it its a stupid question, but, i would buy an ereader, and i want to be sure it will support the 'standard' of ebook.

my idea is that this should be epub.
what do yo think about?

TIA

Renato

JSWolf · 02-19-2010, 05:23 PM

ePub is already the standard and there's nothing out there to even remotely replace it.

koland · 02-19-2010, 08:10 PM

Just beware of which DRM scheme you buy - Sony (so far) uses straight ADE, B&N uses the new ADE+CreditCard+Name and it looks like Apple won't use ADE at all, but their own unique DRM on top of epub (and since they are not licensing the adobe server, presumably won't read drm'd epubs from other sources, in addition to locking their content to their device).

Bremen Cole · 02-19-2010, 10:34 PM

_________________ePub_____________________

weedfreak · 02-20-2010, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koland

Just beware of which DRM scheme you buy - Sony (so far) uses straight ADE, B&N uses the new ADE+CreditCard+Name and it looks like Apple won't use ADE at all, but their own unique DRM on top of epub (and since they are not licensing the adobe server, presumably won't read drm'd epubs from other sources, in addition to locking their content to their device).

I will never buy any DRMed ebook, eventually there will only be DRM free ebooks.

K-Thom · 02-20-2010, 06:34 AM

There won't be "a" standard.

Several formats already co-existed for the last ten years, and this will continue. Honestly, I really don't care which format will become "the" standard, as long as it's possible to buy any eBook I'd like to read and convert it into my favorite format.

kennyc · 02-20-2010, 06:40 AM

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EPUB

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JSWolf · 02-20-2010, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedfreak

I will never buy any DRMed ebook, eventually there will only be DRM free ebooks.

Then you'll be missing out on a lot of eBooks as most do come with the added bonus of DRM.

JSWolf · 02-20-2010, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Thom

There won't be "a" standard.

Several formats already co-existed for the last ten years, and this will continue. Honestly, I really don't care which format will become "the" standard, as long as it's possible to buy any eBook I'd like to read and convert it into my favorite format.

ePub is already THE standard. Of course, Amazon has yet to realize this.

Zetmolm · 02-20-2010, 08:17 AM

Depends on which part of the world you're talking about.In Russia, fb2 is the de facto standard.

JSWolf · 02-20-2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetmolm

Depends on which part of the world you're talking about.In Russia, fb2 is the de facto standard.

Sorry Russia is not with it.

Zetmolm · 02-20-2010, 09:10 AM

Well, fb2 is a format that came out of the Russian readers community, and their efforts have led to a situation where the Russians are far ahead of us in making copyrighted contents available in a way that makes readers, authors, and publishers happy. There are several legal Russian sites where you can read any book you want (in Russian, of course) for free online, or download them for a price of often less than 1 dollar. And all the legal rights and fees arfe taken care of!

loveangel · 02-20-2010, 09:12 AM

EPUB!!

HarryT · 02-20-2010, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetmolm

Well, fb2 is a format that came out of the Russian readers community, and their efforts have led to a situation where the Russians are far ahead of us in making copyrighted contents available in a way that makes readers, authors, and publishers happy. There are several legal Russian sites where you can read any book you want (in Russian, of course) for free online, or download them for a price of often less than 1 dollar. And all the legal rights and fees arfe taken care of!

But that's just down to some strange "loophole" in Russian copyright law which says that this is "legal" if the site claims to be collecting payment on behalf of the copyright holder. The trouble is, there is no enforcement of the fact that they are actually paying it, and I very, very much doubt that they are, if the equivalent MP3 sites in Russia are anything to go by. I really wouldn't hold this up as a shining example of fairness if I were you.

Zetmolm · 02-20-2010, 10:02 AM

@Harry,
This is somewhat off topic, but still:
You refer to the 'allofmp3'-construction. Do you have proof that these sites use a similar loophole? They claim to have agreements with the publishers of the books they make available.
Also, on the site of ast.ru, for instance, which is one of the biggest publishers in Russia, you'll find links to some cheap web shops. They would not do that if they don't get any money from those shops, would they? And these shops also sell fb2, without DRM!

02-19-2010, 05:22 PM	#1
renareto Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: none	which format will win? Hi all, I would have some opinion about the ebook format that would be the standard in next future. I know it its a stupid question, but, i would buy an ereader, and i want to be sure it will support the 'standard' of ebook. my idea is that this should be epub. what do yo think about? TIA Renato

02-19-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
JSWolf Mobile Reader Geek Posts: 34,210 Karma: 13801264 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad	ePub is already the standard and there's nothing out there to even remotely replace it. __________________ Jon 2013 Reading List

02-19-2010, 08:10 PM	#3
koland Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,149 Karma: 4780504 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: TN, USA Device: kindle(1/2/3/dx), nook, nookcolr, Sony, Kobo, epic, iphone, iPad, pc	Just beware of which DRM scheme you buy - Sony (so far) uses straight ADE, B&N uses the new ADE+CreditCard+Name and it looks like Apple won't use ADE at all, but their own unique DRM on top of epub (and since they are not licensing the adobe server, presumably won't read drm'd epubs from other sources, in addition to locking their content to their device). __________________ Karen (Books On The Knob, Erotica BOTK & Christian BOTK) Affiliate tags for: Kobo, Smashwords, Deal of the Day at Diesel & Eros Please clear your browser cookies before purchasing free books, to avoid penalizing any amazon affiliates you frequent. Get an extra 250MB at Dropbox.

02-19-2010, 10:34 PM	#4
Bremen Cole Wizard Posts: 1,115 Karma: 2718 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Device: iPad	_________________ePub_____________________ __________________ Bremen Cole Music = http://www.bremencole.com Bike Journal = http://www.bikejournal.com/journal_p...ame=BremenCole

02-20-2010, 06:34 AM	#6
K-Thom Wizard Posts: 3,299 Karma: 535819 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: yup!	There won't be "a" standard. Several formats already co-existed for the last ten years, and this will continue. Honestly, I really don't care which format will become "the" standard, as long as it's possible to buy any eBook I'd like to read and convert it into my favorite format. __________________ story2go - Phantastisch unterhalten ohne DRM Kambaa - der deutsche Suchkatalog für eBook-Seiten

02-20-2010, 06:40 AM	#7
kennyc Priorities! Priorties! Posts: 29,926 Karma: 36862314 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Galaxy SIII; Xoom; Kindle Fire	. EPUB . __________________ Kenny A. Chaffin Art Gallery - Print Gallery - Writing&Poetry "Strive on with Awareness" - Siddhartha Gautama

02-20-2010, 08:17 AM	#10
Zetmolm Evangelist Posts: 418 Karma: 835018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Onyx Boox 60, PocketBook Touch	Depends on which part of the world you're talking about.In Russia, fb2 is the de facto standard.

02-20-2010, 09:10 AM	#12
Zetmolm Evangelist Posts: 418 Karma: 835018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Onyx Boox 60, PocketBook Touch	Well, fb2 is a format that came out of the Russian readers community, and their efforts have led to a situation where the Russians are far ahead of us in making copyrighted contents available in a way that makes readers, authors, and publishers happy. There are several legal Russian sites where you can read any book you want (in Russian, of course) for free online, or download them for a price of often less than 1 dollar. And all the legal rights and fees arfe taken care of!

02-20-2010, 09:12 AM	#13
loveangel Banned Posts: 137 Karma: 30 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: kindle	EPUB!!

02-20-2010, 10:02 AM	#15
Zetmolm Evangelist Posts: 418 Karma: 835018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Onyx Boox 60, PocketBook Touch	@Harry, This is somewhat off topic, but still: You refer to the 'allofmp3'-construction. Do you have proof that these sites use a similar loophole? They claim to have agreements with the publishers of the books they make available. Also, on the site of ast.ru, for instance, which is one of the biggest publishers in Russia, you'll find links to some cheap web shops. They would not do that if they don't get any money from those shops, would they? And these shops also sell fb2, without DRM!

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