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Old 02-06-2010, 09:54 AM   #16
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Drop her a line, let her know of our support
Hopefully one of you will provide a link to this thread rather than her inbox getting filled

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"Our current policy is we release e-books at the same time as physical books," followed by "I haven't been convinced that it's good for the author or consumer to delay the release. My fear is that the consumer who has fully embraced the technology will buy another e-book that is available or lose interest altogether. What if I train the consumer that the best scenario is to get it free?"
I'm glad to hear that at least one publisher has someone that understands ebook buyers.
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Old 02-06-2010, 01:35 PM   #17
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How much do Random House ebooks cost at places other than Amazon?
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Old 02-06-2010, 02:41 PM   #19
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How much do Random House ebooks cost at places other than Amazon?
Quick check:

Mistress by Amanda Quick Fictionwise $7.99 Amazon Kindle $6.39
Terminal Freeze by Lincoln Child Fictionwise $7.99 Amazon Kindle $6.39

Fictionwise Club prices are 10% lower.
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:10 PM   #20
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Quick check:

Mistress by Amanda Quick Fictionwise $7.99 Amazon Kindle $6.39
Terminal Freeze by Lincoln Child Fictionwise $7.99 Amazon Kindle $6.39

Fictionwise Club prices are 10% lower.
Neither of those are in hardcover, so it's not really what I was looking for (and Buywise Club discount is 15%, not 10%).

But look at this

Blood Ties by Kay Hooper.
Amazon $9.99
BN $26.00 list/$9.99 after discount
BoB $26.00 list/$14.98 after discount
FW $20.00 list/$17.00 after club discount
Sony $26.00 list/$14.30 after 45% discount

Random House certainly doesn't seem to be in favor of selling ebooks of current hardcovers for $9.99 unless they have to.

They may dislike the agency model - but that does not mean they necessarily support lower prices for ebooks of current hardcovers.
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:30 PM   #21
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Random House doesn't set the selling price of it's ebooks -- the retailer sets the price.
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:33 PM   #22
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The American Booksellers Associationĺs Winter Institute meeting was held today, and for the most part it wasn't good news for Amazon. When the representative from Macmillan stood up he received a standing ovation from the crowd (mostly independent booksellers). David Young, chief executive of Hachette USA, also spoke and said he "saw only a bleak future at $9.99". He also indicated that Hatchette would be adopting the agency model.

The only bright spot for Amazon, and Kindle owners, came from Madeline McIntosh, the President of Sales, Operations, and Digital for Random House. She pointed out that publishers "have no real experience at setting retail prices." She also revelaed that one of the reasons Random House had not been party to the iBook Store at launch was because of the pricing issues.

In regards to delayed releasing of ebooks, McIntosh said, "Our current policy is we release e-books at the same time as physical books," followed by "I haven't been convinced that it's good for the author or consumer to delay the release. My fear is that the consumer who has fully embraced the technology will buy another e-book that is available or lose interest altogether. What if I train the consumer that the best scenario is to get it free?"
Allrighty then Random House is my new hero!
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:37 PM   #23
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:39 PM   #24
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Drop her a line, let her know of our support

Done! And thank you Ron for doing the footwork and passing along the email address!
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Random House doesn't set the selling price of it's ebooks -- the retailer sets the price.
That must hold for Macmillan also then. Why is then people saying they do not trust Macmillan to lower the price since history shows they have not done it?
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:48 PM   #26
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That must hold for Macmillan also then. Why is then people saying they do not trust Macmillan to lower the price since history shows they have not done it?
Because in the Agency Model they WILL be setting the prices. They don't currently.
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Because in the Agency Model they WILL be setting the prices. They don't currently.
If Macmillan doesn't set prices, how can they be blamed for not lowering them?
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Because in the Agency Model they WILL be setting the prices. They don't currently.
You know the word "history" refers to past behaviour. If you must comment everything at MR it would at least be good if you understood the text you commented.
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In this day and age, I just can't see why authors don't/can't sell the paper copies of their books through the regular channels, and distribute all electronic versions of their work themselves, thus reaping a larger profit in the process.
Because in many existing contracts, the publishers already hold ebook rights. In new contracts, only heavyweight authors stand much chance of hanging onto ebook rights. Most others wouldn't see it as worth fighting over, because ebook earnings are still tiny in the whole picture.

Plus, at this stage, only a handful of writers are very savvy about ebooks. To create your own ebooks requires a considerable investment in time and energy. Too many people think it's simple. It's not.

And before you cheer Random House too much, they're the company that made a huge grab for ebook rights in old contracts--trying to tie up books whose authors could try to do the above.
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You know the word "history" refers to past behaviour. If you must comment everything at MR it would at least be good if you understood the text you commented.
You mean like your constant posts nit-picking everything I say? Past behavior predicts future behavior so I expect you to claim this post is wrong as well.

You said "That must hold for Macmillan also then. Why is then people saying they do not trust Macmillan to lower the price since history shows they have not done it? "

That almost doesn't even make grammatical sense. I don't trust MacMillan to lower prices, they clearly said they want to RAISE prices. That is precisely what they have said, IN THE PAST MIND YOU. If past behavior predicts future behavior then expect them to INCREASE the price.

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