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Old 02-21-2010, 08:25 PM   #1
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Waterstones subscribe-to-rent or subscribe-to-keep service

Waterstones in the UK are running a survey on book and ebook purchasing. Apart from the usual 'how many' and 'what genre' questions there some interesting questions about a proposed subscribe-to-rent or subscribe-to-keep service.

I've no interest at all in a subscribe-to-rent service and I'm sure a subscribe-to-keep' option would be more expensive, for me, than my current 'buy-only-what-is-not-available-free' option.

http://www.voodoores.co.uk/ebooks/
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:52 AM   #2
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It's certainly an interesting idea. A rental service would only work if all the titles were instantly available, though. If I had to sit waiting for a reservation there'd be no difference to a public library. I'd be interested in a 'subscribe-to-rent' option that had significantly broader range than the library with guaranteed availability.

The most interesting question is hidden around the middle of the survey - they talk about the option of ebooks being available in advance of the printed release.
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I should be very interested to know if Waterstones have talked to The Society of Authors about this proposal. They seem to be very free and easy with authors rights here. At the very least they would have to re-negotiate all the contracts that they have with existing authors.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:14 AM   #4
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I quite like this idea -- the "lend" model sounds just like a private library with an extensive book selection.
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Old 02-22-2010, 04:44 AM   #5
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Not all the subscription models were lending. Some were more like a book club where you can pick so many titles a month and keep them. The key will be the content that they are able to offer - if it isn't pretty comprehensive, it won't be worth a monthly subscription to me. For lending, I'd rather the public libraries got it right, rather than having private subscription services for the wealthy (like what I am )
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Who are voodoores.com? The survey is hosted on an unusual site - be warned!
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Old 02-22-2010, 05:16 AM   #7
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Who are voodoores.com? The survey is hosted on an unusual site - be warned!
LOL, did you even try finding out?

Why not give them a phone call on 020 7723 6000.

Hint: dodgy websites don't usually have a contact phone no on their front page.
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Old 02-22-2010, 05:49 AM   #8
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Maybe not. But I'd rather see a link to an official Waterstones site before I go there, or believe it has anything to do with them.
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They are a very large and well respected marketing consultancy. Their client lists includes such dodgy people as the BBC, Channel 4 and Carlsberg. The survey is clearly legit.
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:31 AM   #10
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I should be very interested to know if Waterstones have talked to The Society of Authors about this proposal. They seem to be very free and easy with authors rights here. At the very least they would have to re-negotiate all the contracts that they have with existing authors.
Well, for Waterstones to renegotiate contracts with existing authors, they would first have to negotiate contracts with them. Last I checked, Waterstones are a bookstore, not a publisher.
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As a British expatriate living in Spain I wonder if they will address the geographic restrictions issue.

If they do I would be very interested in the rent option as I am unable to use a public library.
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LOL, did you even try finding out?

Why not give them a phone call on 020 7723 6000.

Hint: dodgy websites don't usually have a contact phone no on their front page.
My bad!
I did try the website earlier and nothing came up....pesky technology.
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The lending or renting idea sounds great to me, but I doubt the publishers will allow it. But who knows, as the years go by and this all shakes out.... anything is possible.
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I should be very interested to know if Waterstones have talked to The Society of Authors about this proposal. They seem to be very free and easy with authors rights here. At the very least they would have to re-negotiate all the contracts that they have with existing authors.
Waterstones is a retailer, not a publisher. They don't negotiate contracts with authors. Any re-negotiating would be between publisher and author.
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Looks from the survey they are considering the Amazon / B&N route of a dedicated reader.

With the quality of Waterstones customer service I shudder.
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