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Old 01-27-2010, 02:13 PM   #1
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And... the iPad supports ePub

Nuff said.

I don't so much care about this, except maybe this means ePub will become *the* standard.
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Nuff said.

I don't so much care about this, except maybe this means ePub will become *the* standard.

But with what kind of DRM? Adobe Adept or something completely new?
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Maybe it only supports ePub with proprietary Apple DRM, and won't open DRM-free or any other version.
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Then just download an ePub viewer from the app store. Doesn't Stanza support ePubs?
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But with what kind of DRM? Adobe Adept or something completely new?
FairRead-encrypted epubs, anyone?
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Then just download an ePub viewer from the app store. Doesn't Stanza support ePubs?
If it doesn't support other people's DRM, ePub viewers will be unavailable from app store for iPad.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:52 PM   #7
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Nuff said.

I don't so much care about this, except maybe this means ePub will become *the* standard.
It already is the standard....

Good to know apple had some sense enough not to get yet-an-other-format up there.
Now let's hope they don't use drm, or at worse, the same than everyone.
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The best thing about the iPad with regards to epub?

Adobe Digital Editions stops being the reference renderer.

Competition FTW. Maybe Adobe will pick up its game now and fix the five bazillion rendering bugs & quirks. If they don't, they'll just become irrelevant.

If you're a publishing house and your epub doesn't look right in iBooks (or whatever they're calling the built-in epub viewer on the iPad), you don't release the book. You work on it until it does, since that's what the vast majority of your customers will be using. Not now, but in six months to a year, definitely.

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The best thing about the iPad with regards to epub?

Adobe Digital Editions stops being the reference renderer.

Competition FTW. Maybe Adobe will pick up it's game now and fix the five bazillion rendering bugs & quirks. If they don't, they'll just become irrelevant.

If you're a publishing house and your epub doesn't look right in iBooks (or whatever they're calling the built-in epub viewer on the iPad), you don't release the book. You work on it until it does, since that's what the vast majority of your customers will be using. Not now, but in six months to a year, definitely.
If iBooks is really Kobo then (since Kobo uses Adobe DRM) it's possible that Apple will use Adobe DRM for all its ebooks though.
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:08 PM   #10
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The best thing about the iPad with regards to epub?

Adobe Digital Editions stops being the reference renderer.

Competition FTW. Maybe Adobe will pick up it's game now and fix the five bazillion rendering bugs & quirks. If they don't, they'll just become irrelevant.
We don't know that yet. We don't know know what drm will be used, or if adobe drm can be used without ade renderer.
But now that you mentions it. Will apple use something from an other company, or use their own drm and renderer.
Actually, maybe they will, then people will have a reason to complain about drm, and maybe we'll get where the music finally went, ditching drm altogether.
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If it doesn't support other people's DRM, ePub viewers will be unavailable from app store for iPad.
According to whom?

The only thing that makes the iPad interesting as an eReader would be the ability to load the Kindle app, and B&N app, and whatever other ebook app you want, and have a truly multi-format capable reader (albeit with only a 10 hour battery, that you can only use indoors).
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According to whom?

The only thing that makes the iPad interesting as an eReader would be the ability to load the Kindle app, and B&N app, and whatever other ebook app you want, and have a truly multi-format capable reader (albeit with only a 10 hour battery, that you can only use indoors).
First, according to Apple's own guidelines for the App Store. If the applications competes with Apple's own product, it's removed from the store, period.

Secondly, it would be common sense. If Apple decides not to support free ebooks, it wouldn't make sense to allow Stanza in App Store for iPad.
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First, according to Apple's own guidelines for the App Store. If the applications competes with Apple's own product, it's removed from the store, period.
It is going to be interesting to see if Apple brings down the hammer on ebook apps. I agree that they should do so under their own rules, but they have never been very consistent in approving apps.
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But now that you mentions it. Will apple use something from an other company, or use their own drm and renderer.
I doubt they'll use someone else's renderer. WebKit is an Apple project, and at the core of Safari and OS X. It's the engine used in ADE (modified).

I'd be willing to bet hard cash that iBooks uses a WebKit-based, Apple-designed epub renderer.

ADE DRM is besides the point. After you decrypt the file, it's still an epub. The iBookStore will use whatever, and it doesn't matter what form of DRM it will be: the content producers will make one epub file and then add whatever DRM system they need on top, Adobe's or Apple's or B&N's or whocares. Point being, the epub "source" will be checked against the iBooks renderer first.

It's where the money will be.

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ADE DRM is besides the point. After you decrypt the file, it's still an epub. The iBookStore will use whatever, and it doesn't matter what form of DRM it will be: the content producers will make one epub file and then add whatever DRM system they need on top, Adobe's or Apple's or B&N's or whocares. Point being, the epub "source" will be checked against the iBooks renderer first.
Yeap.
But then ,if apple have some sense, they'll use ade drm to make tier stuff compatible. And there no telling there is no contractual / technical reasons that forbid using ade drm with an other renderer.
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