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Old 01-18-2010, 04:43 PM   #46
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Und wie sieht es eigentlich aus, wenn ich für ein Buch mit meinem US-Account mehr als umgerechnet 22€ zahle? Prinzipiell müsste ich doch dann Einfuhrumsatzsteuer zahlen und beginge somit Steuerhinterziehung. Oder wird es bei Software und immateriellen Gütern anders geregelt?

Ein Schuft, wer Böses dabei denkt. Aber wenn man jetzt so einfach einen US-Account einrichten kann ist es ja auch kein Problem den Browser zu nutzen, oder? Natürlich würde man damit Amazon hohe ungeplante Roaming-Gebühren bescheren.

Sorry für OT, aber es passt gerade so gut zu den letzten Posts.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:03 PM   #47
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Und wie sieht es eigentlich aus, wenn ich für ein Buch mit meinem US-Account mehr als umgerechnet 22€ zahle? Prinzipiell müsste ich doch dann Einfuhrumsatzsteuer zahlen und beginge somit Steuerhinterziehung. Oder wird es bei Software und immateriellen Gütern anders geregelt?
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Hallo jft, herzlich willkommen bei MobileRead.

Ich denke nicht, dass dann Steuerhinterziehung vorliegt, da Du ja eine Privatperson bist und somit der Ort der Leistungserbringung (und Versteuerung) im Land des Anbieters liegt (eBook- und sonstige Downloads gelten steuerrechtlich als "sonstige Leistung"). Da der Download nur eine Kopie darstellt - eine "Überlassung von Information", gibt es per Definition auch keine Überlassung eines Gegenstands, die Frage von Importzöllen wird also auch nicht tangiert.

Vgl. http://www.kanzlei.de/isteuer.htm
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@Tom Meines Wissens (& meiner Erfahrung) fällt die Roaming Gebühr immer an, unabhängig davon sogar ob du überhaupt einen Kindle 2 dein Eigen nennst. Interessanter Weise sind aber auch im europäischen Kindle-Store nun ein paar eBooks zumindest für einen Dollar zu haben, hab' mir zu diesem Preis zB gerade Alice im Wunderland (ja, auf Deutsch) auf den Kindle beamen lassen. Experimentieren die Jungs da gerade rum...?

Diese Suche sollte übrigens ein mehr oder weniger komplettes Abbild des deutschsprachigen Kindle Store Angebots sein.

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Old 01-18-2010, 06:21 PM   #49
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Jetzt hab ich den neuesten King statt für 24.80 auf Deutsch für umgerechnet 7.50. Fünfzehn solche Einkäufe, und der Kindle hat sich komplett refinanziert ...
Die Leidensfaehigkeit des braven deutschen Buergers, angesichts solcher Buecherpreise wie Ihr sie ertragen muesst, erstaunt mich doch immer wieder!

Auch mit dem Irex 800S fuer 499 Euro statt USD 399.- und das ohne 3G!!
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:26 PM   #50
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@Tom Meines Wissens (& meiner Erfahrung) fällt die Roaming Gebühr immer an, unabhängig davon sogar ob du überhaupt einen Kindle 2 dein Eigen nennst. Interessanter Weise sind aber auch im europäischen Kindle-Store nun ein paar eBooks zumindest für einen Dollar zu haben, hab' mir zu diesem Preis zB gerade Alice im Wunderland (ja, auf Deutsch) auf den Kindle beamen lassen. Experimentieren die Jungs da gerade rum...?
Die Roaming Gebuehr faellt eben nicht an, wenn man ein US Konto hat und nicht direkt ueber den Kindle herunterlaedt, sondern ueber PC. Das geht auch mit Kindle4PC und Iphone (bei Iphone muss man mit dem Handy herunterladen).
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:55 AM   #51
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Achso, US-Konto, hatte ich überlesen.
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:22 AM   #52
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Schon über 700 deutsche Bücher ... so mag ich das :-)
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:48 AM   #53
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Jaaa, aber ich muss doch empfehlen, auf das alte Gutscheinverfahren zurückzugreifen. Amazon hat mir gestern prompt eine Mail zugeschickt, in der sie gerne meine US-Bürgerschaft bestätigt hätten.

Also flugs mein Kindle wieder auf mein altes Konto umregistriert (eBooks bleiben ja erhalten) und mal abwarten, was sie tun ...

Hat ja schon einen abenteuerlichen Touch, das Ganze.
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Jaaa, aber ich muss doch empfehlen, auf das alte Gutscheinverfahren zurückzugreifen. Amazon hat mir gestern prompt eine Mail zugeschickt, in der sie gerne meine US-Bürgerschaft bestätigt hätten.

Also flugs mein Kindle wieder auf mein altes Konto umregistriert (eBooks bleiben ja erhalten) und mal abwarten, was sie tun ...

Hat ja schon einen abenteuerlichen Touch, das Ganze.

Huch, das ist ja wild!! Poste mal, wie das Thema so weitergeht...
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Johannes von lesen.net hat mich gefragt, ob ich meine Erfahrung nicht in einem eigenen Kommenar zusammenfassen möchte.

Da ich den Inhalt nicht doppelt posten möchte verlinke ich einfach mal auf den Artikel bei lesen.net.
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Die genaue Suche für alle deutschen Bücher kann man sich übrigens in der "Advanced Search" zusammenklicken.

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Hehe, gerade eben hat mich jemand vom Börsenblatt wegen meiner Umtriebe auf Amazon.com angerufen ...

Wenn ich am Montag nicht erreichbar bin, kaufe ich gerade Random House auf.
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Jaaa, aber sehr vieles davon, was man bei Gutenberg völlig kostenlos erhält. Als HTML durch calibre gejagt wird das meist ein identisch gutes Ausgabeformat ergeben.
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Hehe, gerade eben hat mich jemand vom Börsenblatt wegen meiner Umtriebe auf Amazon.com angerufen ...

Wenn ich am Montag nicht erreichbar bin, kaufe ich gerade Random House auf.
Na das hört sich doch großartig an, echt interessant und total spannend dabei zu sein, wenn ein kleines Unternehmen hinausgeht um den Ebook-Verlags-Weltmarkt zu beherrschen.
<--- wenn der da sich freuen würde wärs der perfekte smiley. ^^
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Berate die mal ein bisschen. Hannes und ich haben den sehr kurzen und schlecht recherchierten Beitrag über Amazons DTP-Öffnung auf boersenblatt.net bereits korrigierend kommentiert.
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