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Old 12-22-2009, 08:53 AM   #1
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Free PDF - “First Look: Microsoft Office 2010”

Microsoft just released a 202 page PDF which describes all the new features in the next version of Microsoft Office (currently in beta).

http://cid-d7229b252a0ad6f2.skydrive...93876ebook.pdf
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:35 AM   #2
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Thanks Nate ... I think.

I'm crossing my fingers that Win 2010 will basically be a repeat of Win 2003. I STILL have to search for basic function in Win 07, or as I call it, "that d@mned toolbar."
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:16 AM   #3
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crap! It looks the same, with the stupid "ribbon" toolbar.

Am I getting old and chrochety about new software, or do you hate the "ribbon" also?
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How about "menus". Great feature.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:36 AM   #5
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crap! It looks the same, with the stupid "ribbon" toolbar. Am I getting old and chrochety about new software, or do you hate the "ribbon" also?
Well, I can't answer for you, but I am getting old and crotchety about new software that doesn't give me the option to create my own workspace the way I like to work. I, too, dislike the ribbon and much prefer the way Office 2003 works. I have Office 2007 Ultimate and never installed it because of the ribbon.

What frustrates me even more is that Microsoft asked me (along with a lot of others) whether we liked the ribbon and the resounding response was NO!!!!!! But user studies show that new users of Office (are there any? ) and users who do very simple tasks like writing a letter find the ribbon helpful. So why not give us the option?

MS says that the ribbon anticipates a user's needs based on what the user is doing thus the ribbon is more efficient. When I tried it, it never correctly anticipated my needs and forced me to hunt for my macros and custom toolbars.

Unless my clients for the issue, I won't be upgrading to Office 2010 from Office 2003.

I'm in a similar bind with Windows 7. I want to do the upgrade but because I'm still using XP, the only way to do it is by fresh install. I'd probably be willing to do that if Win 7 didn't cost me more than $25, figuring the final cost when I include all the time I would need to spend reinstalling my work software will run into 4 figures. But I see no sense in upgrading from XP, which works very well, to Win 7 wholly on my dime.

I suppose I'll make the transition when I replace my current computer, but that won't happen for a few more years -- this one was custom built to last a very long time.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:38 AM   #6
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My experience with many users has been that if people learn Office using the "ribbon bar" system on Office 2007 they find it natural and intuitive. It's us "old timers" who learned on old versions of Office who find it difficult to use. You need to "unlearn" the old menu way of doing things.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:41 AM   #7
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I, on the other hand, LOVE ribbons. Being designed (as in MS products) and used right they can save a lot of time and effort.
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I've gotten mostly use to Office 2007 since starting my new job over the summer and having 2007 on both my office PC and work laptop.

I'd say I like it better for Word and Powerpoint now that I've got used to it and no where everything I need is. Excel I still struggle with some, but probably because I very seldomly use excel since the vast majority of my data work is done in SPSS, with some in programs like Stata, Lisrel etc.
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And though still pretty limited compared to TeX or InDesign, Word now offers support for OpenType features like kerning and ligatures. It's not all there yet, but it's much better than in the past.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:56 AM   #10
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personally I use Open Office and kike it.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:59 AM   #11
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And though still pretty limited compared to TeX or InDesign, Word now offers support for OpenType features like kerning and ligatures. It's not all there yet, but it's much better than in the past.
You're mixing word processor with publishing pre-production software. They're not the same and serves different purposes.

Although there's a tendency to bloat software with all new features, that comes from the surrounding areas of expertise.
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My experience with many users has been that if people learn Office using the "ribbon bar" system on Office 2007 they find it natural and intuitive. It's us "old timers" who learned on old versions of Office who find it difficult to use. You need to "unlearn" the old menu way of doing things.
Yea, and that'd be why in an over-500 member organisation productivity increased across the board when they bit the bullet and got menuoffice, sure.

While new users may like it, it still lowers their productivity.
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Damn, I'm still using Word 2000 on my PC, and 2004 for my Mac...I need to get with the program(s).
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While new users may like it, it still lowers their productivity.
Now, that's debatable. Proof, please?
I think MS made their decisions not on a wink of their mind, but after extensive usability experiments. Moreover, extending this control further in their apps is proving this point even more.

I know, a lot of people dislike it, but it seems that they hate it on the basis of that "everyone hates it". It's the same story as with Vista.

Now we have Windows 7 (which in reality is simply a tweaked Vista) and suddenly everyone likes it. Now we have Ribbon 2.0 and I think a lot of people will switch their sides too.

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Yes, a lot will switch sides to OpenOffice. Couldn't agree more.
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