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Old 12-22-2009, 03:45 AM   #1
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I guess EFF likes Sony! Full article here.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:25 AM   #2
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Sorry, the way the second line is written for Sony and the rest of the places makes I discard the info (or at least I don't really believe). Furthermore, lines 4, 5 and 6 are not right if you buy at Sony Store.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:41 AM   #3
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Why is 'yes' in green and 'no' in red? Do they support monitoring of what users buy and read?
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:03 AM   #4
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This strikes me as inaccurate and slanted. Sony, like any online vendor, has the ability to track sales by customer. And I'll bet I consented to their ability to sell that info to third parties, too. You can even see that they maintain that history so that you can download books again after they screw you over and switch ebook formats to epub despite your objections.

Anyway, how is that any different from Amazon except that some of the books you've bought from Amazon are purchased directly from the ebook reader. I don't get it.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:11 AM   #5
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Amazon is a privacy hell. They recently blocked a customer account because the boy friend of his daughter (she's already 30 years old) hasn' t payed everything on Amazon yet (source: German c't Magazin).

Some kind of group punishment - I'm wondering what they will check next.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:26 AM   #6
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Seems like EFF may need to update this for the new Sony wireless device.

I also find it a tad surprising that they didn't include "ability of retailer to remove content from device." (I don't think this is a huge deal, but some people -- particularly the EFF's constituency -- does, as far as I can tell.) We already know Amazon can do this; it's unclear if the nook, Sony wireless and Google books are capable of this, or could be forced to do so based on legal actions.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:30 AM   #7
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Amazon is a privacy hell. They recently blocked a customer account because the boy friend of his daughter (she's already 30 years old) hasn' t payed everything on Amazon yet (source: German c't Magazin).

Some kind of group punishment - I'm wondering what they will check next.
Why is this bad? If my daughter was on my account and her boyfriend failed to pay for something, I am still liable for the account.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:47 AM   #8
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It seems to me that for the Sony column question two and three should be Yes since the assumption for Kindle is that you purchase all your books from Amazon the same should be assumed for Sony.

Also, all the question which say N/A for Sony should also be specified once again assuming use of the Sony eBook store via their software.

My respect for the EFF has gone down several points in my estimation after seeing this.

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Old 12-22-2009, 10:48 AM   #9
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Amazon is a privacy hell. They recently blocked a customer account because the boy friend of his daughter (she's already 30 years old) hasn' t payed everything on Amazon yet (source: German c't Magazin).
Did the boyfriend buy the unpaid-for books on the daughter's account, or the father's, or his own? I'd expect the primary account holder to be responsible for making sure the bill is paid.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:14 AM   #10
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I think this is a bit misleading, skewed, or simply incorrect. Hopefully they will update it soon.
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Why is this bad? If my daughter was on my account and her boyfriend failed to pay for something, I am still liable for the account.
A different account, same address. When Amazon block accounts, they then go ahead and block any account which might possibly be associated with the blocked one.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:47 AM   #12
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Well, I really like my Sony Reader, but that column needs updating based on whatever policies Sony uses for the PRS-900. Also, should be pointed out that you can do without store-bought ebooks in more cases than just the offline readers.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:56 AM   #13
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It seems to me that for the Sony column question two and three should be Yes since the assumption for Kindle is that you purchase all your books from Amazon the same should be assumed for Sony.
I don't know this to be true, but it seems to me that the difference is that Sony can only track what you have bought from Sony but not what you buy, say, from Fictionwise and load on to the device using Calibre. OTOH, Amazon can track everything that is placed on the Kindle.

Granted that this may change with the Sony 900, but perhaps not.
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... OTOH, Amazon can track everything that is placed on the Kindle.

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Not true if you never enable wireless.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:27 PM   #15
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I don't know this to be true, but it seems to me that the difference is that Sony can only track what you have bought from Sony but not what you buy, say, from Fictionwise and load on to the device using Calibre. OTOH, Amazon can track everything that is placed on the Kindle..
"Can" and "Do" are two different things. Does Amazon track every file you put on your Kindle? They either do or they don't.

Of course with the Sony 900 they "can" do this too.

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