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Old 12-24-2009, 02:03 AM   #76
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I'd like to add no more paying hundreds and even thousands of dollars for public domain books! English lit (or any sort of lit) students on a tight budget probably appreciate this the most.

also: no more expensive shipping fees for people who live in places where the books they want aren't as readily available.
I read many of those public domain books either for free in libraries/schools, or I downloaded them and read them on various computer screens. No specialized expensive low-quality ebook reader device necessary.

The papercut thing is still rather hilarious to hear of.

And I do agree about availability. I have fair book availability where I am (Taiwan), but it's not amazing if you have specific wants in foreign languages, and ordering a book from overseas can get expensive. Libraries here don't often have a big selection of anything other than Chinese either. Of course, I can still just read on my computers, and still don't need an expensive specialized device for any of it, especially since any ebook I want to read I'll convert to a PDF and can read on almost any computer I want via dragging around a USB flash stick or SD card.

The extra advantage to reading on, say, a netbook or notebook, is that people don't get particularly curious about what you're doing and what you have. People quickly get bored of looking over your shoulder when they realize you're not watching movies or pornography.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:53 AM   #77
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The following of your comments are highly condescending:

1.)A reader is not a crude computer and has no aspirations to be one. It is meant as a reader and not a computer. Yes, multi function devices will come, but a reader never claims to be more than a reader -- even though some people always hope for that. I myself will buy a multi function tablet once the technology is "right" for reading.

2.)The screen technology is not primitive. It is a different, special technology suitable for reading. The most advanced LED/OLED screens with super high resolution and refresh rates cannot offer the same usability. You make it sound like it is a step back from LCD.

We basically have different opinions, no problem with that. But it seems to me that the vast majority of e-reader users are quite happy with their devices -- for regular reading. To display text in a manner that is easily readable, convenient book like form factor, long battery life, no heat. That is what they were designed for, not to make coffee. You are not satisfied, so it is time to get over it and prepare yourself to sit out the next 3 years until something comes along that fills your special needs. Why make it your life's mission to turn people off to e-readers? They are good enough for most people.

1. An ebook reader IS a computer even if you don't want to admit. It a very limited special purpose computer but it is still a computer. The same way that an Xbox is a computer.

2. The truth is that both of you have points about the screens. It does do the job you want it to do and does it very well. However it also true that the screen can't do what he wants it to do yet. Soon it probally will be able to.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:51 AM   #78
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I've found that most of the people who ask me questions are students who want to find out about suitablity for their uni texts. So they ask intelligent questions.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:37 AM   #79
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One thing that always bothers me when people ask about my kindle is that when I tell them how much the Kindle costs, they go, "Are the books free afterward?"

Me; ...

Since when are books ever free? In fact, the only place (aside from the library and that doesn't really count owing to taxes and all) I've ever gotten free books is ON the Kindle.
It's just like a game system; you have to buy the system to play the games on, then you have to buy the games.

Except with this game system, the games are a lot cheaper and have other benefits that dead tree books don't have.

A book is a book and it has to be paid for, I really don't see why people would think otherwise.

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Old 12-24-2009, 12:06 PM   #80
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I've found that most of the people who ask me questions are students who want to find out about suitablity for their uni texts. So they ask intelligent questions.
I've found that college/university students tend to read more than the general public even outside of their classwork-so it makes sense that they'd be more interested than the general public in an ebook reader.

the bit about intelligent questions is interesting-I've not found students to be markedly more 'intelligent' as they tend to be long on theory but short on experience. But I do wonder if maybe readers, in general, aren't more intelligent? Although experience gained thru reading is, technically, theory, the better fiction is well-researched & tends to mirror human motivations & actions, thus providing (IMO) a reasonable facsimile of experience.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:21 PM   #81
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Maybe people who ask more are more likely to be asking for the nth time (n>1) when you find them, and they have had the stupid questions already removed by selection
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:52 PM   #82
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I think people who assume the books are free are people who don't read very often. Most people read a couple of books a year, and even if the books were free they would never recoup their $259 investment. They don't understand that for people who read much more often, the convenience makes it worth it, and that saving a few bucks a book (when you read 100 instead of 2 a year) can eventually pay for the device as well.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:21 PM   #83
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I think people who assume the books are free are people who don't read very often. Most people read a couple of books a year, and even if the books were free they would never recoup their $259 investment. They don't understand that for people who read much more often, the convenience makes it worth it, and that saving a few bucks a book (when you read 100 instead of 2 a year) can eventually pay for the device as well.
And this also only applies to those people who buy ebooks that are cheaper than paper books, which is frequently not the case.
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Old 12-26-2009, 09:38 PM   #84
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And this also only applies to those people who buy ebooks that are cheaper than paper books, which is frequently not the case.
And in fact almost always you can buy the book used for less.
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Old 12-26-2009, 09:55 PM   #85
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The e-readers are here to help you and to don't need more to carry many books with you.

Also, you don't need to have a e-reader(device). You can have a Windows Mobile device or a Palm one, with a eBook reader on it
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Old 12-27-2009, 02:46 PM   #86
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All I can say is I can't wait to go out with my shiney new Astak PPro and be an ambassador answering questions - stupid or not. I realize I fall into that category of "the newest convert is always the most zealous", but I can't wait for the opportunity to share my new-found enthusiasm.

Well, I can, actually, cuz I'm not going to go out and ride random buses just for the opportunity, and I'm not going to sit on an icey park bench in hopes some other frozen fool will stop by to chat. However, we will be flying to Hawaii soon, and there will be ample opportunities for the curious to accommodate my newfound childish delight.
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:09 PM   #87
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I've had my e-reader for about 1.5 years now and what I've found interesting is that the reactions to it have changed from a general question, "What is that?" to "Is that a Kindle or a Sony, and do you like it?". Clearly awareness of the product in the marketplace is much greater now than it was then.

Even when it disrupts my reading pleasure, I'm always happy to stop and answer questions. I was once a Gemstar owner so I've seen what happens when the market doesn't grow. I want to do my part to encourage people to adopt e-readers.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:29 AM   #88
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Having used a Sony PDA (the 2000/2001 PJ20) as an ebook reader for the last ten years, I don't think I've been asked what it is more than a handful of times. Mind you, the size of 2.5*3.5 inches probably hides what I'm doing...

Just updated to another Sony - the 5" pocket - in bright pink, which might make it a little easier to spot!
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:54 AM   #89
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:56 AM   #90
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