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Old 07-31-2009, 12:16 PM   #1
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Now that the Cybook Opus is out and real, should a new forum be created or (I think it's better) the Gen3 forum renamed to Gen3 & Opus?
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:18 PM   #2
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Now that the Cybook Opus is out and real, should a new forum be created or (I think it's better) the Gen3 forum renamed to Gen3 & Opus?
Actually, we're thinking about calling it Bookeen forum. Doesn't that sound nicer?
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:20 PM   #4
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I'd vote for the renaming option.

It sounds like the CyBook Gen 3 and the Opus will have very similar firmware and functions.

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Now that the Cybook Opus is out and real, should a new forum be created or (I think it's better) the Gen3 forum renamed to Gen3 & Opus?
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:37 PM   #5
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Actually, we're thinking about calling it Bookeen forum. Doesn't that sound nicer?
Yes, whatever, I just meant something that includes both devices Maybe "Bookeen Cybooks"? (the Opus is a Cybook too).
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:55 PM   #6
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I think there should be separate forums for Mobipocket firmware and epub firmware.
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what about Cool-er?

Does the Cool-er get its own forum too?

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Old 08-04-2009, 04:38 AM   #8
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I'd vote for the renaming option.

It sounds like the CyBook Gen 3 and the Opus will have very similar firmware and functions.
Not really... The Opus (ePub) has as much in common with the Gen3 (Mobi) as with the Sony PRS-505 (a bit exaggerated). The hardware, features and options are different and so are the problems and bugs.

Sorry, but there's Opus related posts all over at the Gen3 forum and I can't stand it anymore...

Min. solution would be a sub-section for the Opus in the Gen3 forum (plus renaming it to Gen3 & Opus).

Max. solution 4 different forums (Gen3-Mobi, Gen3-ePub, Opus-Mobi and Opus-ePub).
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:47 AM   #9
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Except that (hopefully soon) the Opus will have the option of Mobipocket firmware and the Gen3 will have the option of the ePUB firmware.

Hardware differences will remain, but I think the overall similarity of the hardware and the user interface mean that they would be better in one forum.

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Not really... The Opus (ePub) has as much in common with the Gen3 (Mobi) as with the Sony PRS-505 (a bit exaggerated). The hardware, features and options are different and so are the problems and bugs.
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Except that (hopefully soon) the Opus will have the option of Mobipocket firmware and the Gen3 will have the option of the ePUB firmware.

Hardware differences will remain, but I think the overall similarity of the hardware and the user interface mean that they would be better in one forum.
And this will make the "problem" even worse... There'll be more similarities between the ePub and Mobi versions of both devices, then between ePub and Mobi on one of them.

I vote for 2 forums Gen3 AND Opus. It will be hard enough to seperate problems of ePub and Mobi on one device. But if I have Gen3 with one firmware version I can at least switch to the other one. (But I'm not interested in SDHC or accelerometer problems from the Opus or PDF formatting or...)
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Interesting discussion, please feel free to continue!

We are currently racking our brains over the different ways we could restructure the forums,

a) to do justice to new and upcoming e-book readers
b) to keep the forums as simple as possible without adding clutter or ambiguity.
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We are currently racking our brains over the different ways we could restructure the forums,

a) to do justice to new and upcoming e-book readers
b) to keep the forums as simple as possible without adding clutter or ambiguity.
Idea:
- Make one section for each company (e.g. Sony, Bookeen, Iliad etc.). Under this header you just have company related stuff.
- Have sub-sections for each device (Bookeen > Gen3 / Opus / Other).
- Under the sub-section for each device the structure is as now (e.g. for Gen3).

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Old 08-04-2009, 12:21 PM   #13
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Idea:
- Make one section for each company (e.g. Sony, Bookeen, Iliad etc.). Under this header you just have company related stuff.
- Have sub-sections for each device (Bookeen > Gen3 / Opus / Other).
- Under the sub-section for each device the structure is as now (e.g. for Gen3).

Thanks for the idea, but I would like to keep it more concise. The way you suggested would look like this:

E-Book Devices
-- Sony
---- PRS-505
------ Content
------ Accessories
------ ...

and so on.

Using this layout, important forum sections would get buried deep below the forum's main, which makes it harder for users to find their way around. Adding too many subforums makes it harder to find the right place to post in and to find the right place for answers.

I would simplify it like this:

E-Book Devices (current)
-- Sony PRS-700
-- Sony PRS-505 (merge Content, Accessories, etc. in here as well)
-- Amazon Kindle DX
-- Amazon Kindle 2
-- ...

In other words, I wouldn't go farther down than one subcategory. I would merge existing sub-subsections (like content, accessories) using appropriate thread prefixes with the main section of the respective device. So one device = one forum section.

In addition, I would add a new parent forum called

E-Book Devices (discontinued)

where we could move existing sections over time when devices get replaced by newer devices.
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Thanks for the idea, but I would like to keep it more concise. The way you suggested would look like this:

E-Book Devices
-- Sony
---- PRS-505
------ Content
------ Accessories
------ ...

and so on.
How about making the "Content/Accessories/etc" into prefixes. Also, how would you handle the OEMs? Would EZ Reader and BeBook both go under Jinke? That said, what about CyBook and Cool-Er since they are both really Netronix devices?

Yes, not an easy task.

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How about making the "Content/Accessories/etc" into prefixes.
Yes, following my forum scheme from above, each device forum would have the prefixes to replace the current sub-subsections.

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That is the toughest one. I would ask: when is it justified to give an OEM device its own forum section. Is it based on popularity? The BeBook is very popular here, probably more than the EZ Reader. The Cybooks of course are among the most popular readers and it's quite apparent to everyone that they should continue to have their dedicated sections. What is important to keep in mind is that our regular visitor does not care whether his device is in fact OEM or not. If he owns a BeBook but we only offer a section "Netronix OEM", then he is likely to miss the right place to post and find answers.
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