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The Trial by Franz Kafka 15 20.27%
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky 8 10.81%
Persuasion by Jane Austen 4 5.41%
Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens 8 10.81%
The Picture (or Portrait) of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde 12 16.22%
Around the World in 80 Days by Jules Verne 11 14.86%
Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edward Abbott 6 8.11%
Orlando by Virginia Woolf 6 8.11%
Les Misérables by Victor Hugo 4 5.41%
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Old 10-24-2009, 03:24 PM   #16
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OK, here's this months where to get it list. Probably not all that needed this month, but I did it anyway. I only included free sources, but all of them are also available for sale at most eBook retailers.



The Trial by Franz Kafka

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The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
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Various formats http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/28054



Persuasion by Jane Austen
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http://feedbooks.com/book/51

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Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens
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PRC http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17412

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Various formats http://www.feedbooks.com/book/56

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20 different formats http://manybooks.net/titles/dickenscetext96olivr11.html

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The Picture (or Portrait) of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
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Various formats http://www.feedbooks.com/book/6

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20 different formats http://manybooks.net/titles/wildeoscetext94dgray10.html

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http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/174 | http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/4078



Around the World in 80 Days by Jules Verne
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Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edward Abbott
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Various formats http://www.feedbooks.com/book/1596
http://www.feedbooks.com/book/1796

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20 different formats http://manybooks.net/titles/abbottedetext95flat10a.html
http://manybooks.net/titles/abbottedetext94flat11.html

Gutenberg
Various formats http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/201
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/97



Orlando by Virginia Woolf
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Les Misérables by Victor Hugo
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LRF http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27915
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Feedbooks
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20 different formats http://manybooks.net/titles/hugovictetext94lesms10.html

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Various formats http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/135

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Old 10-24-2009, 05:03 PM   #17
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Thanks Brian!

Hey, maybe that's another element of the definition of a classic -- "available free for download from the public domain"
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Hey, maybe that's another element of the definition of a classic -- "available free for download from the public domain"
There are plenty of PD books I wouldn't consider classics though.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:59 AM   #19
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So, if the biggest vote takes the election, I guess that means that a minority is pretty much guaranteed to win? There should be runoffs till someone gets a majority, or the disenchanted might go out and burn bookstores...
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Well, for the respondent who seemed confused -- the part about burning bookstores was a joke. But if the poll stops now, 10 people will have voted for The Trial, and 31 people for other books. That would make The Trial in the minority, right? Voting should continue till a book gets a majority, with the least-favored book or books eliminated each round and made to leave the island, with the remaining books participating in a new poll till a book finally wins a majority. Political conventions used to work that way.

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Well, for the respondent who seemed confused -- the part about burning bookstores was a joke. But if the poll stops now, 10 people will have voted for The Trial, and 31 people for other books. That would make The Trial in the minority, right? Voting should continue till a book gets a majority, with the least-favored book or books eliminated each round and made to leave the island, with the remaining books participating in a new poll till a book finally wins a majority. Political conventions used to work that way.
No, we have the voting open for a set period of time and the one with the most votes wins. That way is too complicated for a book club with a set period of time for reading.
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Ok, you're running the show, but (a) it really wouldn't be that complicated to do it the way I indicated, and (b) the method you are using guarantees that the same tired small list of classics will be chosen; that it, is just about impossible for lesser-known classics to be read because multiple people won't think about voting for them in one round. It tends to mean that the poorest read people (of classics) will make the choice of what the group will read, if you think about it, because they won't have heard of many classics except for a few super-famous ones, and the well-read people will think of many classics but they will split their votes among them.
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But I wouldn't have thought 'The Trial' would be the obvious choice from the list.

I didn't vote for it - my choice never wins sniff.
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Well, for the respondent who seemed confused -- the part about burning bookstores was a joke. But if the poll stops now, 10 people will have voted for The Trial, and 31 people for other books. That would make The Trial in the minority, right? Voting should continue till a book gets a majority, with the least-favored book or books eliminated each round and made to leave the island, with the remaining books participating in a new poll till a book finally wins a majority. Political conventions used to work that way.


Oh. Now I get it.
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But I wouldn't have thought 'The Trial' would be the obvious choice from the list.

I didn't vote for it - my choice never wins sniff.

Hey, quit whining, mine didn't even get nominated.
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Ok, you're running the show, but (a) it really wouldn't be that complicated to do it the way I indicated, and (b) the method you are using guarantees that the same tired small list of classics will be chosen; that it, is just about impossible for lesser-known classics to be read because multiple people won't think about voting for them in one round. It tends to mean that the poorest read people (of classics) will make the choice of what the group will read, if you think about it, because they won't have heard of many classics except for a few super-famous ones, and the well-read people will think of many classics but they will split their votes among them.
I think, in general, we aren't a poorly read group, and I'm not sure I see how your way would guarantee something lesser known would get selected. Not to mention that often when others have read the winning book, they'll go on to read another selection from the list. I expect that will be the case here.
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But I wouldn't have thought 'The Trial' would be the obvious choice from the list.

I didn't vote for it - my choice never wins sniff.
I can see it was Orlando. I read it a long time ago, and would love to read it again and discuss it - but so far I am saving my vote in case another of the other ones I'd like need support (Trial and Dorian Gray)


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Ok, you're running the show, but (a) it really wouldn't be that complicated to do it the way I indicated, and (b) the method you are using guarantees that the same tired small list of classics will be chosen; that it, is just about impossible for lesser-known classics to be read because multiple people won't think about voting for them in one round. It tends to mean that the poorest read people (of classics) will make the choice of what the group will read, if you think about it, because they won't have heard of many classics except for a few super-famous ones, and the well-read people will think of many classics but they will split their votes among them.
It is a bit convoluted, but I read this as if you expect people who have not read many 'classics' to select the most well-known or 'famous'?
I can't agree. You forget we are an international group I have read well-known (in Denmark) Danish classics, but few, if none, English classics - though apparently well-known in English speaking countries. My favourite in this list is Orlando - certainly not super-famous. I'm sorry, but I'm not quite sure what your point is? Most of the books nominated got three nominations and were listed - it might be the same 'tired' list of classics, but one that was support for. It wasn't like a lot of books were left by the wayside after a bloody battle (so to speak)....
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Ok, you're running the show, but (a) it really wouldn't be that complicated to do it the way I indicated, and (b) the method you are using guarantees that the same tired small list of classics will be chosen;
First, we are not choosing a world leader here, just a book to read in a friendly little book club.

Secondly if you go back to the previous classic months you will see that while I think there were one or two duplicates each poll has had different and unique selections.

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