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Old 10-01-2009, 09:12 AM   #16
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You're upset they won't let you publish (understandable), but you somehow associate this with greed? They can't make money off of you if they're not publishing your books, so I don't see how this is a logical conclusion. Just sounds like you're upset for not getting a piece of the delicious Amazon pie.
I disagree. I think it's wanting to get the books out to as many places so peoiple will be able to buy them. Amazon is just one of these paces.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:40 AM   #17
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Hya, Jon and Queentess:

With the best will in the world, ghere's something vital you're missing here ... Amazon and Sony are NOT publishers. They are merely manufacturers and retailers. Each in its own way limits availability of legitimately published books so that store and device are almost a closed circuit. In some cases, this may be excused by international copyright issues, in most it's purely a matter of establishing a monopoly. Neither of these comanies has the slightest say in what a publisher produces -- just in whether or not its in their newly-discovered interests (with devices tied to private bookstores) to offer it for sale in a free marketplace.

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Old 10-01-2009, 12:01 PM   #18
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Hya, Jon and Queentess:

With the best will in the world, ghere's something vital you're missing here ... Amazon and Sony are NOT publishers. They are merely manufacturers and retailers. Each in its own way limits availability of legitimately published books so that store and device are almost a closed circuit. In some cases, this may be excused by international copyright issues, in most it's purely a matter of establishing a monopoly. Neither of these comanies has the slightest say in what a publisher produces -- just in whether or not its in their newly-discovered interests (with devices tied to private bookstores) to offer it for sale in a free marketplace.

Hoots. Neil
Thing is, if Sony allows your books to be at their shop, it'll mean yet another avenue of possible revenue.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:25 PM   #19
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I think that'll happen regardless. Sony and Kindle maybe the biggest mainstream wise, but they seem content with coming out with product and staying the same for years as opposed to the "little" guys who seem to being evolving and changing every time you look around.
The Kindle has been out for less than 2 years, so I'm not sure how you came up with "staying the same for years" comment.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:08 PM   #20
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I really hope this is true, it'd be great to see the kindle released in the UK

...even if it's just to try it out >D
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:29 AM   #21
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What would be really good is if they let me move the registration of my existing Kindle from Amazon US to Amazon UK. Somehow I doubt it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:58 AM   #22
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What would be really good is if they let me move the registration of my existing Kindle from Amazon US to Amazon UK. Somehow I doubt it.
Yeah, you're not supposed to have a kindle outside US.
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:22 PM   #23
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you're not supposed to have a kindle outside US.
Says who?

It's true that Amazon won't supply a Kindle to anyone outside the US, but there's no law against buying one in the US and taking it out of the country.
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Each in its own way limits availability of legitimately published books so that store and device are almost a closed circuit.
There's a difference, though. You can buy from Sony with needing a PRS reader. Whereare, with Amazon...
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:33 PM   #25
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There's a difference, though. You can buy from Sony with needing a PRS reader. Whereare, with Amazon...
You can use an iPhone or an iPod Touch!
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Now now, let's not get me into a rant on Apple.
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Now now, let's not get me into a rant on Apple.
I agree but I agree, too, that you can buy with an iphone.
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Well hopefully soon, Europe is the next logical step, then Australia and other smaller countries.

It's indicative of how backwards publishers are, Amazon has to go through their licensing minefield to get it into Europe DESPITE the fact publishers would make more money from it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:55 PM   #29
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It's indicative of how backwards publishers are, Amazon has to go through their licensing minefield to get it into Europe DESPITE the fact publishers would make more money from it.
Pretty much any mass market art form (e.g. music, films etc) has to deal with the same international rights issues. The world is hardly so financially, culturally and politically unified that the issues can dissolve overnight.

My guess is the issue is probably not the publishers, but securing the wireless network deals, at a price Amazon is willing to pay.
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I would think if Amazon was to launch the Kindle in the UK, they'd have had a press release by now. So we can take this rumor as untrue.
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