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Old 09-22-2009, 04:42 AM   #1
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Je suis sans voix

Ma fille de tout juste 5 ans ne sait pas encore écrire et est en maternelle à l'école française. Elle me ramène hier un ravissant dessin de moi (tout à fait ressemblant d'ailleurs qu'elle avait fait à l'école. Ce matin, on le retrouve dans la voiture, je le ramasse et lis la légende
" je m'appele maman"

Notez svp la conjugaison du verbe appeler. Je lui demande "mais qui a écrit ça en dessous du dessin ?" réponse "c'est la maîtresse".



Je paie (et pas rien, je vous le dis) pour que mes enfants aillent à l'ecole française avec des maîtresses et des maîtres français de l'éducation nationale pour apprendre le français, l'école est loin, on fait beaucoup de route tous les jours.
Franchement les bras m'en tombent.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:34 AM   #2
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C'est pour ça que l'avenir est à l'encre électronique : on pourra ajouter un correcteur orthographique directement dans le papier utilisé par les bambins pour dessiner leurs parents
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ça aiderait je crois....
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:23 AM   #4
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arg ! c'est consternant. espérons que la maîtresse qu'elle aura lorsqu'elle apprendra à écrire elle-même sauront conjuguer correctement les verbes...
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:17 PM   #5
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Old 09-27-2009, 12:07 PM   #6
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J'ai élevé mes gamins bilingues allemands; dès leur retour dans le système français "normal" ils sont devenus la bête noire de leurs profs...d'allemand; eux parlaient l'allemand alors que les profs...

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Old 09-27-2009, 12:20 PM   #7
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J'ai élevé mes gamins bilingues allemands; dès leur retour dans le système français "normal" ils sont devenus la bête noire de leurs profs...d'allemand; eux parlaient l'allemand alors que les autres...
Je dirais que c'est absurde, mais j'en ai vues de pire de la part des profs.

(petite note: je ne déteste pas les profs, mais certains...)
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:31 PM   #8
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ouh là, j'angoisse un peu là... on passe du bilingue allemand cette année au bilingue espagnol (et français) l'année prochaine, et j'espère vraiment que ça va bien se passer pour eux. C'est pour ça que j'insiste tellement sur le français, ça sera leur langue passerelle (enfin c'est le concept, dans la pratique on va voir).
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:22 PM   #9
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ouh là, j'angoisse un peu là... on passe du bilingue allemand cette année au bilingue espagnol (et français) l'année prochaine, et j'espère vraiment que ça va bien se passer pour eux. C'est pour ça que j'insiste tellement sur le français, ça sera leur langue passerelle (enfin c'est le concept, dans la pratique on va voir).
il me semble avoir lu que l'apprentissage d'une deuxième langue dès l'enfance facilitait l'apprentissage d'autres langues en général, car ça permet au cerveau de comprendre très tôt le concept même qu'il n'y a pas *qu'une* langue et de créer les chemins dans les neurones pour en assimiler d'autres plus naturellement, en plus de leur ouvrir l'oreille à des sons qui n'existeraient pas forcément dans leur langue maternelle. je peux me tromper, c'est vieux, mais ça me paraît logique...
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"Je suis sans voix"

Ah ben ça nous changera!
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il me semble avoir lu que l'apprentissage d'une deuxième langue dès l'enfance facilitait l'apprentissage d'autres langues en général, car ça permet au cerveau de comprendre très tôt le concept même qu'il n'y a pas *qu'une* langue et de créer les chemins dans les neurones pour en assimiler d'autres plus naturellement, en plus de leur ouvrir l'oreille à des sons qui n'existeraient pas forcément dans leur langue maternelle. je peux me tromper, c'est vieux, mais ça me paraît logique...
Oui mais... il faut qu'une langue soit acquise (parler/écrire) pour pouvoir passer à la suite : il semble qu'on apprenne à lire et à écrire dans une langue et pas dans deux...?
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arg ! c'est consternant. espérons que la maîtresse qu'elle aura lorsqu'elle apprendra à écrire elle-même sauront conjuguer correctement les verbes...


Ben oui, on peut toujours espérer!!

@YGG: Viens au Luxembourg, là, nous devons parler les deux langues!
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Oui, en tout cas c'est effectivement comme celà que je l'ai compris. Il semblerai qu'il n'y ait en réalité jamais de bilinguisme total et qu'une langue est toujours, même si de très peu, dominante. Mes enfants parlent mieux je crois allemand que français. Mais ils sont "fluides" (comme on dit en allemand ) dans les 2 langues.
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Oui, en tout cas c'est effectivement comme celà que je l'ai compris. Il semblerai qu'il n'y ait en réalité jamais de bilinguisme total et qu'une langue est toujours, même si de très peu, dominante. Mes enfants parlent mieux je crois allemand que français. Mais ils sont "fluides" (comme on dit en allemand ) dans les 2 langues.
Pour nous, mon père préfère son luxembourgeois, ma mère son italien et moi l'allemand, mais chacun sait parler au moins trois langues pour commencer. En ce qui concerne la priorité d'une langue, je crois que cela peut changer au cours du temps: Comme bébé, je préférais l'italien, puis vint le luxembourgeois de mon père et de mes amis, puis encore l'allemand pendant mes études, langue chérie de ma femme, puis l'anglais de ma vie d'adulte!
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