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Korrekte Nummern, dafür in unschöner Sortierung 5 19.23%
Unschöne Nummern, dafür in korrekter Sortierung 17 65.38%
Ist mir egal 4 15.38%
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:41 PM   #1
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eBooks-Auflistung - unsaubere Sortierung oder unsaubere Optik?

Das Wohl und Wehe eines eBook-Herausgebers ...

Wer schon einmal eBooks mit fortlaufender Nummerierung sortiert hat, wird auf folgendes Problem gestoßen sein: Tabellarisch aufgebaute Datenbanken bekommen es bis heute nicht fertig, Zahlen richtig zu sortieren. Das kann jeder nachprüfen, der einmal in Excel Zahlen sortiert.

Die Zahlen z.B. von 1 bis 21 werden dann nicht

1, 2, 3, ... usw. 19, 20, 21 ausgegeben, sondern

1, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 2, 20, 21,

d.h. bei der Sortierung wird einfach danach sortiert, welche Zahl ganz vorne steht. 1 kommt immer vor 2, egal, ob es sich um 1, 10, 100, 1000 oder 1867 handelt. Übel, hanebüchen und ein Ärgernis.

Das lässt sich umgehen, indem man Nullen vorne anstellt, also nicht 1, 2, 3, usw., sondern 001, 002, 003, usw. bei einer Monsterserie wie "Perry Rhodan" also sogar vierstellig, 0001.

Dann werden die eBooks zwar richtig sortiert, nur optisch sieht das nicht mehr schön aus. Daher die Frage:

Was ist euch lieber? Eine ordentliche Sortierung, dafür aber mit 0001 im Titel, oder eine einfache 1, dafür aber mit dem oben geschilderten Effekt beim Sortieren?

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Old 07-21-2009, 08:44 PM   #2
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Bei mir ganz klar lieber längere Nummern und dafür korrekte Sortierung.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:02 AM   #3
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:38 AM   #4
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Yup. Sortierung geht vor.
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:56 AM   #5
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:59 AM   #6
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Ich bin für schöne Nummern mit schöner Sortierung.
Das ist mit gängigen Datenbanken überhaupt kein Problem; man darf nur die Nummern nicht als Zeichenketten abspeichern, denn dann werden sie auch als solche interpretiert (mit den genannten Folgen). Wenn sie jedoch als Zahlen gespeichert werden, dann klappt es auch mit der Sortierung!
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Das sehe ich auch so....
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:44 AM   #8
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Mir ist auch ganz klar die korrekte Sortierung wichtig. Mir ist aber erst vor ein paar Tagen aufgefallen, dass Windows Vista auch die kürzeren Nummern richtig sortiert. Also nicht 1, 10, 11, 2 ... Sonder 1, 2, 3, ..., 10. Ist das auch bei älteren Windows Versionen so?
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:33 AM   #9
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Sortierung ist mir deutlich wichtiger ...
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:29 AM   #10
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Also am liebsten die richtigen Zahlen und trotzdem eine richtige Sortierung. Die Nummer müsste also ein Tag des Buches im Format integer sein und die entsprechenden Betriebssysteme die Anzeige dieses Tags auch unterstützen. Im Titel hat die Nummer mE nichts zu suchen.
Wohlwissend dass es im Moment wohl nicht anders geht. Und daher schweren Herzens: richtige Sortierung. :-(
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:34 PM   #11
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Ja, weder der Mobipocker Reader, noch Stanza oder das Cybook bekommen das richtig hin.

Da das hier schon einen deutlichen Trend einschlägt, werden alle bisherigen Titel auch noch mal mit ausreichen Nullen veröffentlicht.
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Hier auch deutliche Präferenz auf einer korrekten Sortierung.
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Old 07-26-2009, 04:34 AM   #13
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sortierung geht immer vor...
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:44 AM   #14
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@Josch: In älteren Windows-Versionen ist das meines Wissens noch nicht so, aber unter Linux schon gaaaaanz lange ;P

Und so wird sich das auch auf den ebook-Readern irgendwann durchsetzen, deshalb: Schöne Nummern, auch wenn die Sortierung (noch) nicht stimmt. Und in der DB sind wie gesagt ohnehin Zahlen abzuspeichern.
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