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Old 08-21-2009, 08:17 PM   #16
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Typical -It's all about the $$$-Looks like there a bit worried about Sony's partnership with Google. I just love my Google books that are compatible with my Sony Reader with a simple click. Google and Sony FOREVER

Mr. Bezos I just love my 500,000 free books for my Sony Reader, opps maybe that now up to a million ;-)
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:31 PM   #17
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It's not just orphan works that were going to be digitized. It is all works. Google came up with a deal with the Authors Guild et al who took it upon themselves to negotiate an opt out instead of an opt in for all authors - whether they were a member of the guild or not. Why should an author who holds the copyright to something have to opt out? If you hold the copyright to something and someone uses it without your permission isn't that infringement? Also there was some talk about how if you hadn't filed a copyright form with the US copyright office - google would scan it anyway whether you opted out or not. It's not just MS etc who are against Google's digitization - a lot of authors, agents, and publishers are as well. If google wants to digitize books fine but they should be required to negotiate individually with each and every single copyright holder.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:21 PM   #18
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It's not just orphan works that were going to be digitized. It is all works. Google came up with a deal with the Authors Guild et al who took it upon themselves to negotiate an opt out instead of an opt in for all authors - whether they were a member of the guild or not. Why should an author who holds the copyright to something have to opt out? If you hold the copyright to something and someone uses it without your permission isn't that infringement? Also there was some talk about how if you hadn't filed a copyright form with the US copyright office - google would scan it anyway whether you opted out or not. It's not just MS etc who are against Google's digitization - a lot of authors, agents, and publishers are as well. If google wants to digitize books fine but they should be required to negotiate individually with each and every single copyright holder.
The monopoly of copyright is a thoroughly artificial construct granted by law--no different than the legally arrived at deal for the opt-out as opposed to opt-in.

I have not the tiniest regard for an artist that wishes to use that monopoly to minimize the chances of his/her work being preserved for future generations... but Google does, allowing such individuals to opt out. Seems like a perfectly reasonable arrangement to me... I just wish there was more governmental (international and/or UN) involvement in terms of delineating what Google's responsibilities, rights, and lack of rights are with regards to the work.

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Old 08-22-2009, 12:50 AM   #19
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Seeing that Microsoft AND Amazon are in on this - I would say "Really trying to cash in on it" is the plan.
You forgot that Google is also in on this, and they do it out of the goodness of their hearts?
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You forgot that Google is also in on this, and they do it out of the goodness of their hearts?
No, but the difference is that before google showed an interest, nobody was digitizing books and/or trying to make them available.
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