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Old 08-13-2009, 06:16 AM   #76
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Wrong - in Germany the act of removing a copy protection is considered a crime.
How will they know you removed the DRM from a book, if you're the only one that sees that book?

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OK, agreed... But what if Sonys next move is to only support DRMed ePubs and Adobes to only licence their ePub-DRM if you just support DRMed ePubs?! Now that would be a smart move...
That's a whole different situation. And I doubt it would happen... There are too many non-DRM books out there.

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It is considered a crime, but there won't be any prosecution if you remove copy protection merely for private use. Though the copyright holder still may file for a civil action law suit.

So, if you remove DRM, just don't go out and brag about it. Simple as it is ...
Yep, except that I will admit I remove DRM for personal purposes. And it is officially a crime here too. And they will never go against the people that remove DRM for personal purposes. It would hurt them much more than they would gain.
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I did - but then came iTunes+.
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bought one album from the iTunes store once. When I got a new computer and tried to move it, it wouldn't let me.
It helps to update your knowledge from time to time. All music on iTunes is iTunes+ now - that is without DRM. The even play on a Sony PRS 505.
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This is great news indeed. Now we can shop for the best book price from store to store. Also, I bet the textbook market will move as a herd toward ePub.

Sounds like Sony is pulling a "BetaMax" on Amazon...
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:05 AM   #81
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You think ePub will become the standard format?
That's why so many people are excited about this move.

Yes, there are dissenters who feel this is a Power Move against Amazon.

You're going to hear a lot of opinions here going both ways. Listen to the reasoned arguments [debates], gauge the rhetoric of the contributors - are they shrill, reasoned, laughable, opinioned, biased - and do the research and then make your informed decision.

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As already a few members mentioned above, what does this mean for the 1st gen PRS-500 users? Will we be left out in the cold? Or will we finally receive the firmware upgrade we have missed before (without any good reason)?
Well Sony is not a charity and they want you to buy a new device eventually. It's all about what they think will give them maximum profit.

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How will they know you removed the DRM from a book, if you're the only one that sees that book?
Well there was that thriller where the police where looking for a murder. Suspect A was not the murderer after all - but he did have lots of illegal DVDs.

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Old 08-13-2009, 07:28 AM   #84
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Doesn't really matter if they do in that circumstance, does it? The whole point about having a single "industry standard" format is that you can then freely move your books between devices, so DRM becomes irrelevent.
It does if they use it to try and block copying and pasting, searching, text to speech, backing up off device, etc., etc.
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Oh, and a nice GUI for that other software would be really nice, too!
The GUI shown in the screen capture in the PRS-600 User Manual, presumably for Sony eBook Library 3.0, looks exactly the same as the 2.5 I have now. I think there may be new functionality (and Mac/Linus support) but the GUI looks the same if it was 3.0 in the new device's manual.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:39 AM   #86
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It helps to update your knowledge from time to time. All music on iTunes is iTunes+ now - that is without DRM. The even play on a Sony PRS 505.
But in the meantime, better alternative showed up. Too late !
And iTunes is personae non grata on my pc because of the no linux support (among other things)

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Old 08-13-2009, 07:40 AM   #87
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Well there was that thriller where the police where looking for a murder. Suspect A was not the murderer after all - but he did have lots of illegal DVDs.

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Well, those books aren't exactly illegal. They would have to check the binaries to see if the DRM has been stripped
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> How will they know you removed the DRM from a book,
> if you're the only one that sees that book?

They are unlikely to be able to sue but they can suppress ability to remove DRM.

To remove the DRM, great majority of us will first need to find tools to do that. Not only is it illegal to remove DRM, it is illegal to write, distribute and in some places "discuss" tools for DRM removal - http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86758/f...ing-about-drm/

Maybe Dr. Drib the Moderator, can comment on this: when someone posts links to DRM removal tools on this here forum, how long on average will these links survive?
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:56 AM   #89
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> How will they know you removed the DRM from a book,
> if you're the only one that sees that book?

They are unlikely to be able to sue but they can suppress ability to remove DRM.

To remove the DRM, great majority of us will first need to find tools to do that. Not only is it illegal to remove DRM, it is illegal to write, distribute and in some places "discuss" tools for DRM removal - http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86758/f...ing-about-drm/

Maybe Dr. Drib the Moderator, can comment on this: when someone posts links to DRM removal tools on this here forum, how long on average will these links survive?
Not long at all.

We will remove them asap!

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