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Old 10-24-2009, 04:37 PM   #1
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Portability of Kindle content across devices

I apologize in advance if this is a simple question. I recently purchased an Ipod Touch and have installed the Kindle Reader application. And now it has been announced that the Kindle reader software will be available for PCs (I have a netbook).

Can I purchase and download books now for my Ipod Touch and then, when, the PC application becomes available, read them on my netbook?

My understanding is that I register my Ipod Touch as my first device. Then later I could re-download the same book to my netbook as long as it is registered as my second device. Is this correct?

Searching through the forums, there appeared to be a limit of 6 devices. Is this simultaneous or lifetime? So after I have cycled through 6 devices, will I know longer be able to read the Kindle content?

These questions are important to me as there are some books I would only buy (e.g., travel guidebooks) if I can read them on both my Ipod and my PC but there is no way I would purchase them twice.

All of my accounts are registered in the USA and I am a USA resident, but I travel overseas 9 months per year and virtually all of my downloads would be outside of the USA (if that matters).

Thanks!
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:59 PM   #2
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A Windows PC will count as a separate device, and its Kindle ebook files will be locked to that particular PC. You can associate a new device (e.g. a Windows PC) with existing ebooks.

The limit is on simultaneous devices, but Amazon isn't setup to automatically handle unregistering a device from ebooks. Also some ebooks have a lower limit, which is listed on the ebook's web page on the Kindle store. See Amazon DRM limiting number of times you can download a book.
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Old 10-24-2009, 06:58 PM   #3
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A Windows PC will count as a separate device, and its Kindle ebook files will be locked to that particular PC. You can associate a new device (e.g. a Windows PC) with existing ebooks.

The limit is on simultaneous devices, but Amazon isn't setup to automatically handle unregistering a device from ebooks. Also some ebooks have a lower limit, which is listed on the ebook's web page on the Kindle store. See Amazon DRM limiting number of times you can download a book.
Thank you, wallcraft. I read through the whole thread and the later blog entry. So it appears that I will be able to purchase a book for my kindle-registered Ipod Touch. And then later re-download the same book, without paying again, for reading on my Kindle-registered netbook. And I will be able to read the same book simultaneously on these 2 devices (this latter point is critical to my reading experience).

I guess we have to view DRM as renting.

The one thing that really surprised me is that I do not know the maximum number of PIDs before I purchase a particular Kindle book. I am guessing that there are no Kindle books currently for sale that have been confirmed with a simultaneous PID limit of 3 or lower?

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Old 10-24-2009, 07:20 PM   #4
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Yep there is a DRM around Amazon content...

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Old 10-24-2009, 08:17 PM   #5
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The one thing that really surprised me is that I do not know the maximum number of PIDs before I purchase a particular Kindle book.
If the limit is not 6, then it is listed. I have seen 5, but not less than that although there have been reports of a limit of 1. It is actually more usual to see unlimited (DRM-free). For example, search on Amazon for B000JQU7T4
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And keep in mind that newspapers and magazines are locked to one single device. You can switch the device, but you can't re-download previously downloaded issues to the new device.

I find this limit fairly onerous because my wife and I can't share magazines without switching Kindles.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:58 AM   #7
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The limit is on simultaneous devices, but Amazon isn't setup to automatically handle unregistering a device from ebooks. Also some ebooks have a lower limit, which is listed on the ebook's web page on the Kindle store. See ="http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49371"]Amazon DRM limiting number of times you can download a book[/URL].
Wallcraft - are you sure about this? I didn't think there was a limit to number of times you could download something however, there is a limit on the number of devices you can download it to. Therefore, if I purchase a book at Amazon, and subsequently delete it 10 times, no problem. I can re-download that book infinite number of times back onto my Kindle.

If I have 7 Kindles or registered devices in my house, only 6 of them (Amazon's limit) can have the book on the device simulataneously. I may be wrong. Just wanted to get clarification because your words are somewhat confusing. Thanks!
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If I have 7 Kindles or registered devices in my house, only 6 of them (Amazon's limit) can have the book on the device simulataneously.
Yes. The problem comes if you downloaded it to 6 devices, then deleted one of them, then try to download to a 7th device. In that case (at least the last time I saw any discussion of this issue) you have to call Amazon customer support and have them manually allow the download. The cases I saw were due to returned Kindles - when a Kindle is returned, or deregistered, all its downloads are (mistakenly) still counted against each individual ebook's download limit.
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Old 10-29-2009, 03:20 PM   #9
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And keep in mind that newspapers and magazines are locked to one single device. You can switch the device, but you can't re-download previously downloaded issues to the new device.

I find this limit fairly onerous because my wife and I can't share magazines without switching Kindles.
Thank you, this is a very important detail and certainly yet another disadvantage of Kindle DRM. I would prefer to read such content on both my Netbook and my Ipod.

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