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Old 04-08-2010, 07:07 PM   #1
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Epub Revision - rich media & interactivity

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1. Need for rich media and interactivity support. EPUB 2.0.1 has an extension mechanism, with provision for fallbacks, but does not intrinsically standardize support for rich media (such as video) and interactivity (programmatic content, such as would be needed to implement a quiz or crossword puzzle). These capabilities are necessary for interactive digital textbooks and digital magazines, and more generally to enable eBooks to evolve into a new medium, rather than simply be digital equivalents of paper books.
Who wants to get it started?
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:17 PM   #2
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Please no, I want simple format that can do electronic books, not another flash sites.
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My interest is in engineering education, so animations (perhaps through SVG), audio, and short videos would seem to be useful. Those are useful not only for making some technical points, but also for keeping the reader interested.
The programmatic content is a real winner for running simulations and exercising the newly explained math.
Quizzes are useful for finding where your presentation is ineffective, and for guiding upcoming content to be presented. Can also give the student a sense of accomplishment.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:19 PM   #4
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Javascript for the interactivity and HTML5 for video.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:17 AM   #5
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Personally, I can't wait for viruses targeting e-book readers. Here's a whole new world to discover. Why should we who like to read books be discriminated? We deserve viruses and trojans as well as anybody!
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:35 AM   #6
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I have yet to hear of a javascript virus that infected any computer not running windows XP.
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:49 AM   #7
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I have yet to hear of a javascript virus that infected any computer not running windows XP.
JavaScript may not be dangerous in itself, but it is a gateway for bugs. Some time ago I did a small research, checking all critical vulnerabilities of major browsers for some six months back. It turned out about 85% of vulnerabilities would not work with javascript disabled, with another 5% it wasn't clear (the description wasn't detailed enough to decide what would happen if javascript weren't supported or was disabled).
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I must be the only one who wants books to stay non-interactive.

You want interactive, go online.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:40 PM   #9
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Some interactivity can be good (a map that can be zoomed, a Klein bottle that can be rotated, a table that can be sorted by different columns...), but I don't know if I can trust the sense of contents creators, given the use of flash in webpages...
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:41 PM   #10
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I for one would love to be able to add crosswords/sudoku/interactive stories (D&D style) to e-books.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:45 PM   #11
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I for one would love to be able to add crosswords/sudoku/interactive stories (D&D style) to e-books.
Yes, it would be great for those "choose your own adventure" type books which were popular in the early 1980s.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:52 PM   #12
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Yes, it would be great for those "choose your own adventure" type books which were popular in the early 1980s.
Presumably that much can already be recreated pretty well just by hyperlinking, even with the current spec and readers.

Still, one could take it a step or two further.
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1. Need for rich media and interactivity support. EPUB 2.0.1 has an extension mechanism, with provision for fallbacks, but does not intrinsically standardize support for rich media (such as video) and interactivity (programmatic content, such as would be needed to implement a quiz or crossword puzzle). These capabilities are necessary for interactive digital textbooks and digital magazines, and more generally to enable eBooks to evolve into a new medium, rather than simply be digital equivalents of paper books.
Ah, the neverending rush to glitz. The ePub standard needs to get plain text books right first before moving on to stuff like rich media. There's still so many things that need to be fixed with respect to basic typography in the ePub standard; I can't even imagine how screwed up this format will get if they start slap-dashing things like embedded video, etc., into the standard. Jeez, I don't want to read a web page, I want to read a book.
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Some interactivity can be good (a map that can be zoomed, a Klein bottle that can be rotated, a table that can be sorted by different columns...), but I don't know if I can trust the sense of contents creators, given the use of flash in webpages...
And let's be brutally honest - the industry people who want interactive features want them for Ads...
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And let's be brutally honest - the industry people who want interactive features want them for Ads...
Easy enough to add ad-block to reader programs
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