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Old 05-06-2009, 07:35 PM   #151
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If the DX supports PDFs natively will there be a firmware/software update for the K2 to read PDF's natively as well? Are PDFs being rendered by new hardware or software in the DX?
It's all done in software.
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:39 PM   #152
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If the DX supports PDFs natively will there be a firmware/software update for the K2 to read PDF's natively as well? Are PDFs being rendered by new hardware or software in the DX?
Done in software, but the screen size is the problem as it's too small to display a lot of PDFs.
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Too bad Amazon doesn't have a software API so that developers could design their own applications for the Kindle. They really could have something that goes beyond just eBooks.
If Amazon did that, others could come up with software for reading other formats and then that would mean that you would not be stuck with Amazon for DRMed content. That would be against Amazon's best interest even though that isn't in our best interest.
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Done in software, but the screen size is the problem as it's too small to display a lot of PDFs.
Actually, if you take the 9.7" screen and crop off the margins of most PDF, it should be pretty good for displaying most letter sized PDF as a lot of them have huge margins.
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:44 PM   #155
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If Amazon did that, others could come up with software for reading other formats and then that would mean that you would not be stuck with Amazon for DRMed content. That would be against Amazon's best interest even though that isn't in our best interest.
It depends on what capabilities Amazon opens up through the API. They could also implement an approval process for apps along the lines of what Apple does for the iPhone.
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Actually, if you take the 9.7" screen and crop off the margins of most PDF, it should be pretty good for displaying most letter sized PDF as a lot of them have huge margins.
I was referring to the K2 screen size as being too small for most PDFs.
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Well, to be fair I don't have that many articles in my stashes. Just a few hundred probably, and only a small portion that I still refer to (vs. just citing from memory or from past papers I've written).
Ooo, citing from memory--living dangerously there, dmaul! Either that or you have a much better memory than I do.

It helps that your filing system has to please only yourself :-)

The file-by-topic unorganized system would have been tough for me, as a paper could be about protein 1's a) structure and b)biochemistry but also the first reference for method Z, so I would be wondering where to file it. Hence the one big box sorted by name method.

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And library? Who goes to the library anymore? I've probably been 2 or 3 times in the past couple of years and that was to just grab a book. Pretty much every worthwhile journal in my field is fully available electronically now.
Yeah, I suppose my age is showing :-) The library's website is more important than the library now. I adore electronically available journal articles; it's *so* much quicker than going on a reference run. My arms used to get tired carrying all those journals over to the photocopier.

The downside, alas, is when you lose university status, you can't access anything anymore, whereas you used to be able to look at the paper journals the same as before; you just couldn't check anything out.

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But they definitely need to get a better suited device out for researchers who do want an electronic device to read and annotate academic PDFs easily.
Yeah, the Kindle isn't there. There's *got* to be a market for this kind of thing. I know I'm not the only one.
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:49 PM   #158
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Actually, if you take the 9.7" screen and crop off the margins of most PDF, it should be pretty good for displaying most letter sized PDF as a lot of them have huge margins.
KDX has automatic zoom to cut off the white space. So a portrait view would be pretty close to 100% on a document with ordinary margins, and if you need to, you turn it landscape and view things half a page at a time.
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In my opinion, it's the wrong step. It's a step that may hurt ePub and tell the world that PDF is a great eBook format. This is just so wrong on so many levels. Amazon botched the DX big time.
Link to Adobe blog entry on DX debut:
http://blogs.adobe.com/billmccoy/200..._others_l.html

It is tragic that, having integrated the Adobe Reader Mobile SDK, they have chosen not to support ePub and ACS4 at the same time. Perhaps there is some technical reason for this (their server infrastructure might need more time to accommodate it...), but since Amazon didn't take the opportunity now to say that they are working on this part, one has to assume the reasons are not technical.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:02 PM   #160
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We know why Amazon did not go with ACS4 and ePub. It's called CONTROL. Amazon wants to keep control of all DRMed content.
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We know why Amazon did not go with ACS4 and ePub. It's called CONTROL. Amazon wants to keep control of all DRMed content.
Well, technically they want to keep control of where people buy their DRMed content, I doubt they really care what we do with it afterward, and if we actually read it or not.
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I just hope it's better than the bloody irex digital reader , which btw is a marvellous piece of ****
I can't believe you just blasphemed the wonderful digital reader. I am shocked and amazed. Please go out side and stick your head in the way of the car door and slam it on your head at least 3 or 4 times. Pictures would be nice.


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Done in software, but the screen size is the problem as it's too small to display a lot of PDFs.
As noted by tomsem, Amazon is using Adobe Reader Mobile 9 to render PDFs on the DX. This capability could be added to the Kindle 2 as well, but on the DX Amazon is not using the reflow capabilities of ADE for PDFs which would be needed (or be helpful) on a 6" screen. So it would take a bit of work to add PDFs to the Kindle 2. Amazon does have an alternative reflow method - send your PDF to them for conversion to MOBI.

One interesting property of ADE that the DX uses, but which is a much requested upgrade for the Sony Readers, is the clipping of PDF margins. The DX does this by default, but the Sony Reader's portrait mode leaves the margins intact (I'm not sure about their landscape mode). This means that Bookeen and other new ADE licensees have no excuses for leaving the margins unclipped.
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You don't need to wait for yet another Kindle. All it takes to annotate PDF is a firmware upgrade.
Don't get me wrong; I would totally love for you to be proved right. But I've never yet seen Amazon add a function like this in a firmware upgrade. I can't tell you how many times I've hoped that *this* upgrade would be the one that would add folders, for example.

But hey, if they did add pdf annotation, that would be great and I'd probably buy one on the spot.
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Damn it, I can't resist! The refresh rate, battery life and the ability to read Topaz files make it too good to pass up.

EDIT: Put my order in. I figure its best to reserve my place in the queue and I can cancel the order if I change my mind.

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