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Old 04-01-2009, 10:29 AM   #31
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The DRM part is just idiotic. Waste of money, and many will just not buy the stuff, if they can't strip it (including me.) Barnes & Noble is a dinosaur.
For me, the problem with DRM is that it limits the devices and means that if today I own a Sony and tomorrow a Kindle, I can't move my Sony books to my Kindle. If they resolve this problem (assuming, of course, that Kindle should someday accept ePub), then I have no problem with DRM.

If DRM simply prevents me from posting a book file on the Internet for everyone and anyone to download, then the DRM is fine.

If the DRM prevents me from moving books from one device to another or sharing a book with my family absent giving them my device, then DRM is not fine.

I will give Google, Sony, and B&N the benefit of the doubt until they demonstrate they do not deserve it.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:33 AM   #32
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Sigh another incompatible DRM scheme. Now that epub shows signs of ending the tower of e-babel publishers have happily started constructing a tower of DRM
Kovid, aren't you jumping the gun a bit? Besides, ePub was always DRM neutral. It was/is just a formatting scheme. Aren't the current eBabel problems a combination of incompatible formats + incompatible DRM schemes? If the trio do as they say, maybe what we are looking at is mor along the lines of a universal format (ePub) combined with a type of social DRM that enables publishers to identify those who buy an ebook and then make it freely available on the Internet to anyone and everyone. If so, I don't think that is so bad.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:34 AM   #33
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Kovid, aren't you jumping the gun a bit? Besides, ePub was always DRM neutral. It was/is just a formatting scheme. Aren't the current eBabel problems a combination of incompatible formats + incompatible DRM schemes? If the trio do as they say, maybe what we are looking at is mor along the lines of a universal format (ePub) combined with a type of social DRM that enables publishers to identify those who buy an ebook and then make it freely available on the Internet to anyone and everyone. If so, I don't think that is so bad.
I'm pretty sure this is an April Fool's joke.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:35 AM   #34
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They wouldn't be able to right now. Sony is already partnered with Borders right now, it would be a conflict of interest.
I doubt the Border's agreement is exclusive.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:37 AM   #35
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I'm pretty sure this is an April Fool's joke.
See what believing can do . But then I'm generally an optimist.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:56 AM   #36
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:59 AM   #37
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Sigh another incompatible DRM scheme. Now that epub shows signs of ending the tower of e-babel publishers have happily started constructing a tower of DRM
That's such a funny post. You had me laughing starting with the "Sigh," from the author of converting software, on to "tower of e-babel" and through for the metaphor. Thanks, I'm still laughing.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:59 AM   #38
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I doubt the Border's agreement is exclusive.
Usually with stuff like this they are. Booksellers are pretty territorial.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:20 AM   #39
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That's not even funny!

I was so excited I nearly p**d my pants!! And now you all are saying it's an April Fool's joke! Darn!

Oh, well, it could happen, I guess. In that dream world I call, "Happy Ebook Land!"

Good one, NatCH. Much better than my 7 year old telling me there was something crawling on the wall behind me -- April Fools, Mom!

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Old 04-01-2009, 11:23 AM   #40
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:31 AM   #41
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Maybe I'm just old, but I no longer find April Fools funny. It's just annoying. Get off my lawn!
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:41 AM   #42
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:42 AM   #43
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Maybe I'm just old, but I no longer find April Fools funny. It's just annoying. Get off my lawn!


That line never gets old.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:52 AM   #44
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What?? You people are nuts if you think this is a joke! I'm telling you, listen to the cat. Cats know all. Besides, do you really think Alexander would let NatCh post an April Fool's joke quoting people from Sony, Google, and B&N on the front page of MR? Come on, people. This is a joke within a joke within a joke. NatCh is just pulling our legs by not pulling our legs. Trust the cat!
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Old 04-01-2009, 12:02 PM   #45
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Nope. Sorry. I don't believe it's not true. Now NatCh has changed the link to make us think this is a joke. But earlier today it took you to the Sony website for press releases - it just wasn't posted there yet. Nope. I don't believe it's not true. Nope. No way.

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