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Old 12-01-2012, 11:59 AM   #241
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... Was die nicht-rechteckigen Illustrationen angeht: In dieser wunderbaren Ausgabe von "Three Men in a Boat" gibt es so Sachen. Da könnte man sich codemäßig inspirieren lassen, denke ich - ich habe dem Büchlein noch nicht unter die Haube geschaut, aber es mit großem Genuss gelesen und betrachtet.

Was issen dieser Kraft mit seinem Nobody für einer? Nie gehört.
ad 1: Danke, double, schau ich mir an; mal sehen, mit wieviel PS man da fährt.

ad 2: Da verweise ich doch zum Einstieg gerne auf zwei Texte von Robert Kraft, die MTH und ich gemacht haben (beide illustriert) und die den originellen Charakter dieses Aventuristen gut zeigen, mit seinen Stärken und Schwächen zugleich.

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(An letzterem hat sich Hella Reuters von GB.DE, nachdem ich ihn geschickt hatte, so festgelesen, dass sie fast vergessen hätte, ihn hochzuladen.)
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Was die nicht-rechteckigen Illustrationen angeht: In dieser wunderbaren Ausgabe von "Three Men in a Boat" gibt es so Sachen. Da könnte man sich codemäßig inspirieren lassen, denke ich - ich habe dem Büchlein noch nicht unter die Haube geschaut, aber es mit großem Genuss gelesen und betrachtet.
Hab ich nachgeschaut - nein, das sind alles rechteckige images, mal links, mal rechts, mal mittig positioniert, absolut Standard. Hilft leider nicht.
Trotzdem natürlich Danke für deine Mühe.
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Jellby hat Illustrationen umfließenden Text für Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland programmiert; ist zwar rauskommentiert, aber noch in der Datei auffindbar.
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Schwierigkeiten bereitet dabei Band 1, bei dem es nicht nur "rechteckige" Illus gibt, sondern auch solche, wie im Anhang zu sehen, bei denen im Original die Lücken von Text ausgefüllt werden. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie man in diesem Fall die Illu in ein epub-eBook eingestalten kann / sollte? "Rechteckig" aufs Wesentliche beschnitten vielleicht?
Ein Muster wie sowas aussehen kann, findest du hier

Sowas wollt' ich doch immer schonmal machen...
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Ist gar nicht so schwierig...

Man teilt das Bild in 2 rechteckige Teilbilder auf. Das obere, breite Teilbild über die Readerbreite und das untere, schmale Bild genau darunter. Man muß dann die entsprechende Positionsbefehle setzen, daß die Bilder auch wirklich wieder paßgenau aneinanderschließen.
Und bei dem zweiten, schmalen Bild unten kann man doch ohne Probleme Text danebensetzen - Positionsbefehle...
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Ist gar nicht so schwierig...

Man teilt das Bild in 2 rechteckige Teilbilder auf. Das obere, breite Teilbild über die Readerbreite und das untere, schmale Bild genau darunter. Man muß dann die entsprechende Positionsbefehle setzen, daß die Bilder auch wirklich wieder paßgenau aneinanderschließen.
Und bei dem zweiten, schmalen Bild unten kann man doch ohne Probleme Text danebensetzen - Positionsbefehle...
Gott, Meiner Einer [du hast für mich diesen Namen total verdient]: was bin ich doof! Na klar. So mach ich das!

Vielen Dank aber, pynch und mmat1, für euren Support bzw. sogar euer Angebot. Ich weiß das sehr zu schätzen.
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Hab ich nachgeschaut - nein, das sind alles rechteckige images, mal links, mal rechts, mal mittig positioniert, absolut Standard. Hilft leider nicht.
Trotzdem natürlich Danke für deine Mühe.
Also auch wenn du inzwischen eine andere Lösung und andere Beispiele hast: Ich bin doch noch nicht alt und tattrig! In Chapter 3, beim Text "It is the same when you go to the sea-side." Da ist sowas.

Und in Chapter 13: "The order of the procession was as follows:" Und nochmal ganz am Ende von Chapter 13...

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Ich bin doch noch nicht alt und tattrig!
Auf den Tag, an dem wir uns alle unser wahres Alter verraten, freue ich mich schon!

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Ich bin noch drei Posts lang Groupie. Die sind bekanntlich jung und knackig. Was kommt dann eigentlich?

Ach Bruce, danke für deine beiden Kraft-Tipps!
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Auf den Tag, an dem wir uns alle unser wahres Alter verraten, freue ich mich schon!
Ich hab mal geguckt: ich wurde am 2. April 1963 zusammen mit meinen 5 Brüdern geboren (und hatte auch gleich einen Auftritt im Fernsehen)
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Ich bin noch drei Posts lang Groupie. Die sind bekanntlich jung und knackig. Was kommt dann eigentlich?
Dann kommen die "BiFis" (bis fierzig) und "Uhus" (unter hundert)
Frag mich bitte nicht wie Spinnenmonat das auf religiösisch übersetzen würde
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...Ich bin doch noch nicht alt und tattrig! In Chapter 3, beim Text "It is the same when you go to the sea-side." Da ist sowas.

Und in Chapter 13: "The order of the procession was as follows:" Und nochmal ganz am Ende von Chapter 13...
Verzeih, double, äh ... Erzengel ('Doppelengel'?), ich war entschieden zu oberflächlich, du hast natürlich recht! Vielleicht habe ich ja bei ME auch zu früh gejubelt. Ich schau mir wirklich alles an.

@mmat1: Die Mark Twain-Lösung schien mir schon mal ziemlich aufwendig, aber augenscheinlich äußerst präzise.
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... aber augenscheinlich äußerst präzise.
So sollte es auch sein.

Wieviele von den Bildern mit weissen Bereichen gibts denn ?
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... Wieviele von den Bildern mit weissen Bereichen gibts denn ?
Is überschaubar, so'n gutes Dutzend.

Deine tolle Twain-Methode - dafür; ist wegen der notwendigen Relativität der Darstellung, das einzige, was poppt - habe ich auf das erste Bild von Nobody 1 (s. Beispiel 1, oben) anstandslos übersetzen können.
Nur folgendes Problem:
Ich wollte den Textbeginn mit einer graphischen Initiale beginnen:

<p class="calibre3"><img alt="w_initiale" class="initiale" src="../Images/w_initiale.gif" />ann laufen wir ... etc.

Definition dazu:

.initiale {
float: left;
height: 85.25px;
width: 100px;
line-height: 1;
margin-bottom: 0.25em;
margin-right: 0.5em;
margin-top: 0;
margin-left: 0;
text-align: justify;
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Nun wird zwar an der Stelle white paper gezeigt, aber das image der Initiale erscheint nicht mehr.

Was kann falsch sein, ihr englischen Experten?
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Ohne mich Experten nennen zu wollen - aber mir kommt das "text-align: justify" komisch vor. Du willst die Initiale doch links haben. Vielleicht rede ich aber auch Stuss.
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