bebook getting wifi, what about cybook ?

etherspin · 03-17-2009, 02:30 AM

anyone think the gen3 has hope of getting wifi enabled SD card support in future firmware? do any signs point to yes ?

Abelturd · 03-17-2009, 03:48 AM

Wifi has to be supported by the firmware (some driver is needed). So far there have been no indications that Bookeen is planning on adding wifi connectivity to gen3 cybooks. And I myself don't see it as very likely. It would be great though.

HarryT · 03-17-2009, 03:57 AM

Does the SD card controller in the CyBook support SDIO? If not, no WiFi! I have to admit that it's not something I'd have any particular use for personally - I never used the WiFi on my iLiad when I had that.

Ortep · 03-17-2009, 04:03 AM

I personally see no use for it. It will be a heavy drain on the battery compared to the unit itself. So you will want to switch it off during normal use. And if you have to switch it on for the transfer of a book (once a week max) it will be faster to plug in the USB cable. You will have to do that anyway to recharge the unit. So for me wifi is only extra work, extra money end extra short battery life

tompe · 03-17-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ortep

I personally see no use for it. It will be a heavy drain on the battery compared to the unit itself. So you will want to switch it off during normal use. And if you have to switch it on for the transfer of a book (once a week max) it will be faster to plug in the USB cable. You will have to do that anyway to recharge the unit. So for me wifi is only extra work, extra money end extra short battery life

That might be true for a specific implementation but you can implement support for WiFi always being on and still have good battery times as seen in the Nokia internet tablets.

Barcey · 03-17-2009, 09:21 AM

I was looking at the Netronix site and wondering the same thing. It looks like they've dropped the EB100 model (which is what the Cybook hardware is). If they keep with the same OEM you can see they have options for Wifi. They appear to have put in larger batteries as well.

http://www.netronixinc.com/product_e-book.htm

hidari · 03-17-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by etherspin

anyone think the gen3 has hope of getting wifi enabled SD card support in future firmware? do any signs point to yes ?

Sounds like a bloated warthog: waste of time.

How about PDF reflow and Folder options. That seems more realistic and useful.

hidari

Ortep · 03-17-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

That might be true for a specific implementation but you can implement support for WiFi always being on and still have good battery times as seen in the Nokia internet tablets.

Even if highly optimized, there will always some power drain. As I remember you were the one complaining about the battery life. It will not improve when you add wifi.

Even if they redesign the complete GEN3 to a extremely energy efficient GEN4with wifi, the same device will last longer with the wifi switched off.

You won't get wifi for free

bwaldron · 03-17-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etherspin

anyone think the gen3 has hope of getting wifi enabled SD card support in future firmware? do any signs point to yes ?

Personally, I have no interest. The current hardware (no touchscreen, no keyboard) wouldn't much lend itself to usability of a wireless feature.

tompe · 03-17-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ortep

Even if highly optimized, there will always some power drain. As I remember you were the one complaining about the battery life. It will not improve when you add wifi.

Even if they redesign the complete GEN3 to a extremely energy efficient GEN4with wifi, the same device will last longer with the wifi switched off.

You won't get wifi for free

It will not improve but I am not sure it will get much worse especially if they solve some other power drain problems. There is a low power consumption mode for WiFi and as I understand it it only consume power at some checkpoints if you are not using it. Very few devices implements this mode but it is used in e.g. N810 and the battery last longer than the Cybook even if you are constantly connected to WiFi.

nelsonescorcio · 03-20-2009, 05:59 AM

I am not interested either on wifi.
What I want is a better screen (a 7 or 8 inch one, with better contrast), a better hardware (better buttons), a faster page turn, a better software...

How hard is it to connect the Cybook to a computer?

I want an excelent ebook reader, not a nice pricey gadget.

tompe · 03-20-2009, 07:49 AM

[QUOTE=nelsonescorcio;401253
How hard is it to connect the Cybook to a computer?
[/QUOTE]

Pretty hard if you want to use the net connection to synchronize the page you are at with different reading devices because then you probably will notice that it is not synched when you do not have physical access to a computer and the Cybook.

A net connection can be used to enhance the reading experience.

YGG- · 03-20-2009, 08:26 AM

No use for wifi either for me!
faster page turn, folders, no delay on turn on...yes!

hidari · 03-20-2009, 08:35 AM

Well said in a NUT SHELL

nelsonescorcio · 03-20-2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe

Pretty hard if you want to use the net connection to synchronize the page you are at with different reading devices because then you probably will notice that it is not synched when you do not have physical access to a computer and the Cybook.

Is this really essencial to you? Even important?

Don't get me wrong: if I could get an wifi connection for free, I would want one. I'd probably use it now and then. But since it isn't free (it does costs some euros to integrate it in a device), I just prefer to skip it.

Off course it is natural that some people actually find it usefull (and not only "cool").

03-17-2009, 02:30 AM	#1
etherspin Connoisseur Posts: 78 Karma: 292 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: none	bebook getting wifi, what about cybook ? anyone think the gen3 has hope of getting wifi enabled SD card support in future firmware? do any signs point to yes ?

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Abelturd Little Fuzzy Soldier Posts: 580 Karma: 5711 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nowhere in particular. Device: cybook gen3, htc hero, ipaq 214	Wifi has to be supported by the firmware (some driver is needed). So far there have been no indications that Bookeen is planning on adding wifi connectivity to gen3 cybooks. And I myself don't see it as very likely. It would be great though. Last edited by Abelturd; 03-17-2009 at 03:50 AM.

03-17-2009, 03:57 AM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 55,156 Karma: 27556397 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Touch, PW, Fire HD, iPad 3, iPhone 4, Samsung Tab 2 7 + More	Does the SD card controller in the CyBook support SDIO? If not, no WiFi! I have to admit that it's not something I'd have any particular use for personally - I never used the WiFi on my iLiad when I had that. __________________ Harry Currently proofreading The Poison Belt, by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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Ortep Fanatic Posts: 516 Karma: 470 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Netherlands Device: Kindle 3, Bebook	I personally see no use for it. It will be a heavy drain on the battery compared to the unit itself. So you will want to switch it off during normal use. And if you have to switch it on for the transfer of a book (once a week max) it will be faster to plug in the USB cable. You will have to do that anyway to recharge the unit. So for me wifi is only extra work, extra money end extra short battery life Last edited by Ortep; 03-17-2009 at 04:06 AM.

03-20-2009, 07:49 AM	#12
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,523 Karma: 2150615 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Nexus 7, Nexus S, iPad 2, Notion Ink Adam Qi, Kindle WiFi	[QUOTE=nelsonescorcio;401253 How hard is it to connect the Cybook to a computer? [/QUOTE] Pretty hard if you want to use the net connection to synchronize the page you are at with different reading devices because then you probably will notice that it is not synched when you do not have physical access to a computer and the Cybook. A net connection can be used to enhance the reading experience. __________________ DRM is EVIL! /Tommy Persson

03-17-2009, 09:21 AM	#6
Barcey Wizard Posts: 1,089 Karma: 2949928 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: PocketBook 301+/Cybook GEN3 /iPod Touch	I was looking at the Netronix site and wondering the same thing. It looks like they've dropped the EB100 model (which is what the Cybook hardware is). If they keep with the same OEM you can see they have options for Wifi. They appear to have put in larger batteries as well. http://www.netronixinc.com/product_e-book.htm

03-20-2009, 05:59 AM	#11
nelsonescorcio Zealot Posts: 108 Karma: 102 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Portugal Device: Cybook Gen 3	I am not interested either on wifi. What I want is a better screen (a 7 or 8 inch one, with better contrast), a better hardware (better buttons), a faster page turn, a better software... How hard is it to connect the Cybook to a computer? I want an excelent ebook reader, not a nice pricey gadget.

03-20-2009, 08:26 AM	#13
YGG- Dry fruit Posts: 1,156 Karma: 147086 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Paris, France Device: Bookeen Opus + HTC Desire HD	No use for wifi either for me! faster page turn, folders, no delay on turn on...yes! __________________ YGG (I used to think my English wasn't too bad, then I joined this forum) "Je vous l'avais dit que j'étais malade" (épitaphe sur une tombe du Père Lachaise) "Anyone who hates children and dogs can't be all bad" W.C. Fields "Vaut mieux qu'il pleuve aujourd'hui, plutôt qu'un jour où il ferait beau..." (Pierre Dac)

03-20-2009, 08:35 AM	#14
hidari la gauche Posts: 1,496 Karma: 12678834 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sapporo, Japan Device: OPUS/PB360,Nexus 7,GzONE, Kobo Mini	Well said in a NUT SHELL

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