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Old 03-02-2009, 10:36 PM   #1
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I have borrowed some e-books from my local library and downloaded them in Mobi format. I then used kindlefix to make them readable on my Kindle. Then i used Mobi2Mobi to correct the scrambling of the author's name and title. Using the USB, i dragged them over to my Kindle.

The books now look "normal" on my Kindle and I am enjoying reading them. Since this is the first time I have done this, what will happen at the 15th day to these 14 day rentals?

I'm assuming i have altered the DRM but not removed it by making the book Kindle readable.

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I have borrowed some e-books from my local library and downloaded them in Mobi format. I then used kindlefix to make them readable on my Kindle. Then i used Mobi2Mobi to correct the scrambling of the author's name and title. Using the USB, i dragged them over to my Kindle.

The books now look "normal" on my Kindle and I am enjoying reading them. Since this is the first time I have done this, what will happen at the 15th day to these 14 day rentals?

I'm assuming i have altered the DRM but not removed it by making the book Kindle readable.

Thanks

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Your books will expire and you will not be able to open them on your Kindle. The one exception to this is that Kindle will not know they have expired unless you turn on Whispernet or hook your Kindle to your computer. So, if you're in the middle of a good book, don't do either of the above until you finish it!

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Thanks for the response. If the time stamp is not on the file in the Kindle, how would re-connecting allow the expiration to be sent?

Probably obvious to you but not to me.

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Kindlefix does not remove the DRM or the date stamp. It just adjusts the format sothat the book can be read on Kindle.

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Your books will expire and you will not be able to open them on your Kindle. The one exception to this is that Kindle will not know they have expired unless you turn on Whispernet or hook your Kindle to your computer. So, if you're in the middle of a good book, don't do either of the above until you finish it!

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I don't think that's true. The Kindle knows the date. Whispernet has nothing to do with whether the ebook expires.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:14 AM   #6
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I don't think that's true. The Kindle knows the date. Whispernet has nothing to do with whether the ebook expires.

I think when you run Kindlefix, it installs a little man in there.......he knows when the book is expired, and takes it back to the library.

I'm just sayin'.....
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Seems plausible; I'll let you know in 12 days what happens.
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Can't tell you why. Just know that if I've wanted to finish a book that "should have expired", I can still read it until I turn on Whispernet or plug my Kindle into my computer.

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Not sure how a date/time stamp works on the Kindle but here is the situation on my Sony.

When I copy a pdf library book to my Sony it will pick up the date/time from the device. The book will automatically expire once the 14 or 21 days has been reached. A small work around that someone pointed out allows me to change the date on my reader which will either reduce/extend the library books expiration date. All of this is assuming I don't connect my reader to my pc and open up ADE (it may sync and tell the ebook the correct date).
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We are suffering the effects of the ebook market-lock war. I just got a used K1 and wanted to load library books onto it. I managed to get one transferd in about a half hour, but the title is munged and the book won't open. I'm 90% of the way there, but if it's this difficult for every library book I'll probably give up. Amazon only wants you to buy from them. Guess I should have researched more

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I managed to get one transferd in about a half hour, but the title is munged and the book won't open.
If the book won't open you are doing something wrong. It should open even with the bad title. Did you follow the Visual Kindle Guide in our wiki?

As far as editing the Title/Author info, install calibre, import the book into it, edit the information and then "Send to device". Easy peesy.

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Old 03-05-2009, 12:41 PM   #12
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We are suffering the effects of the ebook market-lock war. I just got a used K1 and wanted to load library books onto it. I managed to get one transferd in about a half hour, but the title is munged and the book won't open. I'm 90% of the way there, but if it's this difficult for every library book I'll probably give up. Amazon only wants you to buy from them. Guess I should have researched more

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I agree with Bob. I use Kindlefix and then Mobi2mobi_gui.

Yesterday, I downloaded a book and from the time it hit my computer until it was available to be copied over to my Kindle was 7 minutes and it was only that slow because I went back to amazon's site to get the right title and description type of metadata.

On the bright side, last Friday when I got my Kindle and started working with this it seemed like a frustrating endless task and now it's, let's just say, easy peesy.

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Gee, where did I read that?
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Yep I followed the Visual Wiki, it was very clearly done. It only took me a half hour because I had to install python, get my PID, etc. So yes I must have done something wrong. I'll try again when I get home and see what happens.
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Yep I followed the Visual Wiki, it was very clearly done. It only took me a half hour because I had to install python, get my PID, etc. So yes I must have done something wrong. I'll try again when I get home and see what happens.
Ok, let us know how you get along with specific issues you have. I'm sure it's something simple that's missing.

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Alright, I tried this again. I used an entirely different computer and went through the process again - installed the python scripts, triple-checked my PID at the library is correct and it matches the kindlepid.py output based on the serial number, which I also double-generated from Amazon.com and the back of the unit itself - the PID is correct.

I still get the message "the selected item could not be opened" on the Kindle. This happens whether I use the Mobi2Mobi rename script or not - which does work by the way.

Ideas... could my firmware upgrade have wrecked this method of reading library Mobi's on the Kindle? I upgraded it to version 1.2 first thing when I got it. I hope this is not the case.

The library also has on file the PID of my Mobipocket Windows software reader. I haven't tried the book on that reader yet, I'll do that when I get a chance.
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