Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Amazon Kindle

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-25-2009, 09:00 PM   #1
WilliamG
Addict
WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!
 
Posts: 268
Karma: 57098
Join Date: Sep 2006
My first irritating Kindle 2 gripe...

This is a really stupid irritation, that can easily be fixed should Amazon choose to.

OK, so now, with the new joystick thing, the Kindle can selectively refresh parts of the display.

What this means is that only the central part of the screen refreshes (i.e. the bulk of the text you're reading) and NOT the very top and very bottom of the screen. That means that if you're in the middle of a book, and put the unit to sleep, the bottom of the screen reads: "Hold the power button to wake the Kindle up" (or something like that).

But that means that whenever I'm reading after I wake my Kindle up, I can read those EXACT words at the bottom of the screen, since the e-ink ghosting leaves those words there, and it NEVER refreshes. So the whole time I'm reading, I can still read the words at the bottom telling me how to wake my Kindle up. AND, at the very top of the display, I can see the sliver of the screen-saver image! Stupid!

Anyway, this really bugs me, and I hope Amazon realize they need to refresh the whole screen when it comes out of sleep to eliminate this.
WilliamG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 09:03 PM   #2
bwaldron
Wizard
bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.bwaldron ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
bwaldron's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,221
Karma: 530854
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida, USA
Device: Kindle 1/2/3/4/PW2, Droid Maxx, Galaxy Tab Pro (12.2")
Sounds like a bug to me. Does everyone with a K2 see this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post
But that means that whenever I'm reading after I wake my Kindle up, I can read those EXACT words at the bottom of the screen, since the e-ink ghosting leaves those words there, and it NEVER refreshes. So the whole time I'm reading, I can still read the words at the bottom telling me how to wake my Kindle up. AND, at the very top of the display, I can see the sliver of the screen-saver image! Stupid!
bwaldron is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Advertisement
Old 02-25-2009, 09:09 PM   #3
zorgon
Member
zorgon began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 11
Karma: 10
Join Date: Feb 2009
Device: none
I have this problem also. Plus, I get some ghosting when changing from a picture (book cover) to other screens. Part of the picture remains in the back ground.
zorgon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 09:10 PM   #4
TallMomof2
Kindlephilia
TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.TallMomof2 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
TallMomof2's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,009
Karma: 1139255
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Snowpacolypse 2010
Device: Amazon K4, Fire, Droid 2
I see it on the K1 also but like on the K2 it goes away after a few page turns.
TallMomof2 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 09:48 PM   #5
Ervserver
Wizard
Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ervserver's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,625
Karma: 1008294
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Iowa, USA
Device: Nook Simple Touch
Lots of posts in regards to this on Amazon, I haven't gotten a good feel as to if the issue is the same or worse than Kindle I
Ervserver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 10:20 PM   #6
nelamvr6
Zealot
nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
nelamvr6's Avatar
 
Posts: 133
Karma: 416
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New London, CT USA
Device: Kindle 2
I had heard about the "ghosting" issue, and after I started reading this thread I specifically scrutinized my K2... My K2 doesn't have this problem, not even a little, not even under very bright light.

Whatever this problem is, it's not generic...
nelamvr6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 10:46 PM   #7
Ajax
Addict
Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ajax ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ajax's Avatar
 
Posts: 385
Karma: 17083352
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Device: K4 Touch, Kindle Fire, HP Touchpad
Going from screensaver to book and having the ghosting at the bottom of the screen was a big dissapointment for me as well.

Thankfully the amazon CSRs are relatively fast with the fix and posted tonight that using the shortcut alt-g will force a full refresh of the screen and remove any ghosting.
Ajax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 11:32 PM   #8
WilliamG
Addict
WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!
 
Posts: 268
Karma: 57098
Join Date: Sep 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax View Post
Going from screensaver to book and having the ghosting at the bottom of the screen was a big dissapointment for me as well.

Thankfully the amazon CSRs are relatively fast with the fix and posted tonight that using the shortcut alt-g will force a full refresh of the screen and remove any ghosting.
Excellent tip! This works! It'd be nice if they can implement an auto alt+g when you wake up the unit from sleep. For now, though, this works!

And FYI, this happens on ALL Kindle 2s, since I have two, and it does it on both, so I'm 99.9999% sure it does it on all Kindle 2s. Good work Ajax!
WilliamG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 11:37 PM   #9
JSWolf
Resident Curmudgeon
JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JSWolf's Avatar
 
Posts: 38,728
Karma: 19643753
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Sony PRS-650, Sony PRS-T1, nook STR, iPad 1, iPhone 5
Nice to know the ghosting is a software issue and not a hardware issue.
JSWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2009, 11:53 PM   #10
WilliamG
Addict
WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!
 
Posts: 268
Karma: 57098
Join Date: Sep 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post
Nice to know the ghosting is a software issue and not a hardware issue.
Oh there was never any question about that. It's just that the page doesn't FULLY refresh when it switches pages at the moment. Which is fine, EXCEPT coming out of sleep it NEEDS to do a full refresh. Let's just hope Amazon can "properly" fix this. It's a VERY simple thing to fix.
WilliamG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 12:57 AM   #11
Ervserver
Wizard
Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ervserver ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ervserver's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,625
Karma: 1008294
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Iowa, USA
Device: Nook Simple Touch
glitches are exciting aren't they
Ervserver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 03:47 AM   #12
snipenekkid
Banned
snipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensionssnipenekkid can understand the language of future parallel dimensions
 
Posts: 765
Karma: 51034
Join Date: Feb 2009
sounds as if this selective refresh would have an influence on the battery life. would possibly be an intentional behavior to increase the battery life. amazon is claiming a 25% iincrease. so could it be if amazon changes this behavior the battery life would decrease a bit?
snipenekkid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 03:56 AM   #13
WilliamG
Addict
WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!WilliamG will blow your mind, man!
 
Posts: 268
Karma: 57098
Join Date: Sep 2006
No it would have zero effect on battery life since it would only refresh the whole screen once, just when it comes out of sleep.
WilliamG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 07:14 AM   #14
nelamvr6
Zealot
nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.nelamvr6 has a complete set of Star Wars action figures.
 
nelamvr6's Avatar
 
Posts: 133
Karma: 416
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New London, CT USA
Device: Kindle 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post
Excellent tip! This works! It'd be nice if they can implement an auto alt+g when you wake up the unit from sleep. For now, though, this works!

And FYI, this happens on ALL Kindle 2s, since I have two, and it does it on both, so I'm 99.9999% sure it does it on all Kindle 2s. Good work Ajax!
See my post above, it does not happen on all Kindle 2s.
nelamvr6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 09:35 AM   #15
BenG
Wizard
BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.BenG ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
BenG's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,799
Karma: 59154248
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arkham, MA
Device: Paperwhite
I haven't noticed any ghosting on mine.
BenG is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Minor Gripe: Auto Update? Innomen Calibre 25 07-05-2010 06:51 AM
My Biggest Gripe with Sony Readers advocate2 Sony Reader 5 01-28-2010 05:06 PM
My biggest gripe with PDF ebooks michaelmiller Sony Reader 2 01-11-2009 11:47 PM
Most Irritating Thing About eBooks You Download Gideon News 49 06-10-2008 05:22 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:07 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.