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Old 02-10-2009, 03:24 PM   #1
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Yes, that's right I no longer have a Kindle. I sold my Kindle 1 yesterday and this morning I UPS it and all my accessories to the new owner. Now, I'm patiently waiting for mine Kindle2, ship date March 2nd (yes, I'm to cheap to pay for shipping ). But before feeling sorry for me, I still have mine Sony PRS-505!
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Old 02-10-2009, 03:25 PM   #2
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But before feeling sorry for me, I still have mine Sony PRS-505!
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I was thinking of selling my Kindle1 now, too -- since I've gotten back into reading the paperback (or hardback) books I already own. I could read those till my new K2 arrives. But i dunno .... it's nice to have the K1 as a backup. One can never have too much technology.
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Yes, that's right I no longer have a Kindle. I sold my Kindle 1 yesterday and this morning I UPS it and all my accessories to the new owner. Now, I'm patiently waiting for mine Kindle2, ship date March 2nd (yes, I'm to cheap to pay for shipping ). But before feeling sorry for me, I still have mine Sony PRS-505!
And you can remove the DRM from those AZW eBooks and convert to LRF or ePub for your 505 so you don't have to give up reading what you've purchased. Of course, you'll need to know the PID and to get the PID, you'll need the serial number so you can use the Python script to generate the PID based on the serial number.

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Old 02-10-2009, 03:40 PM   #5
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If you sell your Kindle and no longer have a Kindle, what happens to all the eBooks you've previously purchased?
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Use of Digital Content. Upon your payment of the applicable fees set by Amazon, Amazon grants you the non-exclusive right to keep a permanent copy of the applicable Digital Content and to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times, solely on the Device or as authorized by Amazon as part of the Service and solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Digital Content will be deemed licensed to you by Amazon under this Agreement unless otherwise expressly provided by Amazon.
So this seems to me like you could keep them but you wouldn't be able to read them until such time as Amazon authorizes other devices or a software reader. They have already promised some phones will be able to read books. It's unspecific at this time.

Technically, as you say, you can strip the DRM and read them on your computer or any other device that can read .mobi or a format you can convert to. However, that's against their terms as well:

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Currently in my library on Amazon's site I can opt to download to a Kindle or to my computer. I don't know if all download options would go away if I had no Kindle registered. Maybe Lilly could tell us. If I planned to strip the DRM and hold on to the files, I would probably make sure I had them all backed up before, just to be sure.
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Old 02-10-2009, 04:06 PM   #7
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If people who do sell their K1 before they have a K2 lose their purchased content, then I know there's going to be a huge outcry. I hope Amazon does the right thing and allow the content to be saved (but not downloaded again) until there was a Kindle registered again.
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Yes, that's right I no longer have a Kindle. I sold my Kindle 1 yesterday and this morning I UPS it and all my accessories to the new owner. Now, I'm patiently waiting for mine Kindle2, ship date March 2nd (yes, I'm to cheap to pay for shipping ). But before feeling sorry for me, I still have mine Sony PRS-505!
Don't feel bad, I've been running "Kindle-less" since nigh-on forever. That's why they invented Cybooks, PRSes, Jinkes and iLiads!

Of course, if all you Kindle-owner-wannabes would just get off your tails and pre-order a Kindle 2 through the link in my signature, I'd gladly join the ranks!

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Old 02-10-2009, 04:16 PM   #9
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Currently in my library on Amazon's site I can opt to download to a Kindle or to my computer.
I didn't realize that you could download them to your computer. This would seem to imply that non-U.S. customers could actually use the Kindle to get access to Amazon's content (they don't need Whispernet). They just download to their computer and then use the USB cable to transfer to the Kindle. Or am I missing something here?

I suppose Amazon may not take Kindle orders from outside the U.S. but that just provides an opportunity for a middleman.
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And you can remove the DRM from those AZW eBooks and convert to LRF or ePub for your 505 so you don't have to give up reading what you've purchased. Of course, you'll need to know the PID and to get the PID, you'll need the serial number so you can use the Python script to generate the PID based on the serial number.

Go Calibre!
That's exactly what I've been doing. I bought a ton of books from Amazon last night before I deregistered my Kindle. I then deDRM them and loaded them to my Sony. So now I can patiently wait for mine Kindle; like I said before, I was too cheap to pay for shipping!
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I bought a Kindle 1 shortly after they appeared and returned it Shortly after mailing it in, I discovered I could have sold it for almost twice as much on eBay. Anyway, the main thing I didn't like about the Kindle 1 was that I kept hitting the wings unintentionally and going to another page. The Kindle 2 looks to be a big improvement.
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I was thinking of selling my Kindle1 now, too -- since I've gotten back into reading the paperback (or hardback) books I already own. I could read those till my new K2 arrives. But i dunno .... it's nice to have the K1 as a backup. One can never have too much technology.

It's good to have a back-up. I could not have done it, if I did not have mine PRS-505. Still it was hard to pack it up and deregister it; for a minute I had second thoughts, I did not realize how attached I was to that Kindle! I starrred at it for what must be a good 10 minutes before sealing the box!
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Don't feel bad, I've been running "Kindle-less" since nigh-on forever. That's why they invented Cybooks, PRSes, Jinkes and iLiads!

Of course, if all you Kindle-owner-wannabes would just get off your tails and pre-order a Kindle 2 through the link in my signature, I'd gladly join the ranks!

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Of course, if you really want to help someone out, help out a really nice lady (my wife) own a BeBook by using the email address when you purchase a BeBook to get a discount and help her get one.
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That's exactly what I've been doing. I bought a ton of books from Amazon last night before I deregistered my Kindle. I then deDRM them and loaded them to my Sony. So now I can patiently wait for mine Kindle; like I said before, I was too cheap to pay for shipping!
Way to go!
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I bought a Kindle 1 shortly after they appeared and returned it Shortly after mailing it in, I discovered I could have sold it for almost twice as much on eBay. Anyway, the main thing I didn't like about the Kindle 1 was that I kept hitting the wings unintentionally and going to another page. The Kindle 2 looks to be a big improvement.
I definitely preffer the design of the Kindle2, but I think most people who bought a PRS-505 will like the form factor of the new Kindle. Since I had the PRS-505 10 months before even buying a Kindle, I love the thinness and sleek look of the new Kindle. it's really strange, I had no urge to ditch my PRS-505 for a PRS-700, that's why I had to let Kindle1 go, the urge to upgrade to a newer model. How can we have a successful relationship when I have these urges!
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