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Old 11-10-2008, 01:09 PM   #1
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mot / expression rare ou obscur

nous avons dans le forum anglophone, un fil pour des mots rares ou obscurs que nous découvrons au fil de nos lectures, sujet que je trouve assez passionnant, et je me suis dit que ça pouvait être sympa de faire la même chose en français. il n'y a pas spécialement de règles, il peut s'agîr d'argot ou d'une locution très formelle, simplement un mot / une expression que vous avez découvert en lisant.

(entre parenthèses, ayant contribué le mot "quondam" au fil en anglais, quelqu'un a répondu que ça lui rappelait le mot "quidam".

connaissant ce mot des livres de Raymond Queneau, Léo Malet, etc. j'ai été néanmoins très surprise de savoir qu'il avait été utilisé en anglais, mais qu'il est tombé dans l'obscurité la plus totale depuis un certain temps.

du coup je me demandais à quel point ce mot était connu de nos jours en français. il me paraît certes un peu désuet mais néanmoins encore relativement courant, mais du coup j'ai un doute... vous le connaissez ? vous l'utilisez ?

/fin de parenthèse)


pour lancer le fil, voici ma première contribution :

pédibus.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:30 PM   #2
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J'adore.

Voyons voir... quidam. Dans mon folklore personnel (c'est pas un oxymore ça ?) le quidam c'est l'anonyme, mais désigné par l'homme de loi et tout spécialement le policier. C'est un mot que je "vois" dans la bouche d'un gendarme ou un gardien de la paix, au moment où, tirant la langue, il rédige son rapport.

Pédibus ?

Un jour de grève ou bien le premier mai, attendre, au bas de sa rue, le passage de la manifestation de 14h.

Pas de mot en tête pour rebondir, mais ça viendra.

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Old 11-10-2008, 01:36 PM   #3
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Voyons voir... quidam. Dans mon folklore personnel (c'est pas un oxymore ça ?) le quidam c'est l'anonyme, mais désigné par l'homme de loi et tout spécialement le policier. C'est un mot que je "vois" dans la bouche d'un gendarme ou un gardien de la paix, au moment où, tirant la langue, il rédige son rapport.
bon, tu as tendance à confirmer mon impression. c'est l'autre fil qui m'a flanqué le doute.
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Un jour de grève ou bien le premier mai, attendre, au bas de sa rue, le passage de la manifestation de 14h ?
héhé ! proposition amusante. inexacte, mais amusante. ce mot m'a été transmis via Léo Malet, Grand Homme de Lettres devant l'éternel, Orfèvre des Mots et de l'Argot (qu'il ne soit jamais oublié). normalement, la seule règle du fil originel était "pas de définitions !!" car cela rajoute au piquant du concept, donc au lieu de tout te livrer je me permettrai juste de t'aiguiller par ici.
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j'ai hâte.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:38 PM   #4
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(au fait, le fil en anglais (lien dans mon premier post) vaut le détour pour ceux qui lisent en anglais aussi. )
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:09 PM   #5
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Une bonne idée ce fil.
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:31 PM   #6
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Une bonne idée ce fil.
merci pipo, même si en fait l'idée n'est pas de moi à l'origine.

alors, as-tu un mot à nous proposer ?
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:56 PM   #7
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Pour quidam, oui le mot est encore usité chez nous. Il m'arrive de l'utiliser dans des nouvelles.
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(au fait, le fil en anglais (lien dans mon premier post) vaut le détour pour ceux qui lisent en anglais aussi. )
Je confirme ça m'a valu quelques slices de franche rigolade, particulièrement cette maladie terrifiante qui ne touche que les hommes le koro, ou ce petit ubu :
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"Several councils have banned the use of Latin terminology
A number of local councils in Britain have banned their staff from using Latin words, because they say they might confuse people.
... the move has been welcomed by the Plain English Campaign which says some officials only use Latin to make themselves feel important.
A Campaign spokesman said the ban might stop people confusing the Latin abbreviation e.g. with the word "egg". "
Les pihis longs et souples...
...La cétoine qui dort...
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:13 AM   #9
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Les pihis longs et souples...
...La cétoine qui dort...
joli !!! merci !

à qui maintenant ?
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au fait petite j'ai eu une cétoine "apprivoisée." (enfin, en bocal quoi. le chat l'avait attrapé et elle ne pouvait plus voler.)
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Et maintenant nous sommes livrés à l’anarchie des gnaffs. Nous avons eu les jambarts, [...]

Crévindiou, ça me donne envie d'avaler toute ses épistolièries, ça !
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