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Old 12-29-2008, 08:48 AM   #1
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LIT (DRM free) to Mobi

Hi all.

Was given a DRM free Microsoft Reader collection (Edgar Rice Burroughs), a compilation of his Tarzan books.

I like the formatting that has been done and would like to read it as such but do not like MS Reader, prefering Mobi.

The Free Amber LIT converter requires me to convert to PDF and then I can use MobiCreator, but Amber screws up the formatting in a big way.

Is there another conversion package that is available to do this?

Cheers and thanks

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Old 12-29-2008, 09:19 AM   #2
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i've had very good results converting lit files using calibre (check the calibre forum), and i believe calibre can export in mobi format as well if you request "save to disk". alternately, the lit2imp tool which can be found in the ebookwise forum will "explode" a lit file into its base components, these can then be reassembled using mobipocket creator.
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Perhaps the Edgar Rice Burroughs collections in Mobipocket format here will save you a lot of time in converting the lit files?

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/ebo...mid=128&page=8

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Hi all.

Was given a DRM free Microsoft Reader collection (Edgar Rice Burroughs), a compilation of his Tarzan books.

I like the formatting that has been done and would like to read it as such but do not like MS Reader, prefering Mobi.

The Free Amber LIT converter requires me to convert to PDF and then I can use MobiCreator, but Amber screws up the formatting in a big way.

Is there another conversion package that is available to do this?

Cheers and thanks

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Old 12-29-2008, 10:46 AM   #4
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Perhaps the Edgar Rice Burroughs collections in Mobipocket format here will save you a lot of time in converting the lit files?

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/ebo...mid=128&page=8
pff, but that's cheating !
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:13 AM   #5
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MobiPerl has a lit2mobi command, but I find that MobiPocket's tools are still the best (which may change when Calibre gets an any2mobi capability).

Explode the LIT to an OEB (HTML, images and a .opf metafile), using either Calibre's mobi2oeb or (my favourite) "ConvertLIT GUI". Then give the .opf file to mobigen.exe, or Windows MobiPocket Reader or MobiPocket Creator. If you use MobiPocket Creator, you have the option to update the metadata.
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As wallcraft says: ConvertLIT to "explode" the LIT file to its OEB source, then double click the ".opf" file to open in Mobi Creator, quickly check the metadata to see if there's anything you want to change (eg I always change the author's name from "first last" to "last, first"), then click the "Build" button to produce the MobiPocket book. Total time: under a minute.
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Hi all.

Was given a DRM free Microsoft Reader collection (Edgar Rice Burroughs), a compilation of his Tarzan books.

I like the formatting that has been done and would like to read it as such but do not like MS Reader, prefering Mobi.

The Free Amber LIT converter requires me to convert to PDF and then I can use MobiCreator, but Amber screws up the formatting in a big way.

Is there another conversion package that is available to do this?

Cheers and thanks

SD
My two recommended choices
1) Use a tool called MobiPerl this converts several formats to MOBI. In this tool kit there is a LIT2MOBI executable that can convert your LIT to MOBI.
2) Also Clit with Mobi creator. With CLIT explode the LIT file. It will create a OPF file. Then import that to MobiCreator and create the MOBI file.

My experience is option 1 is faster than option 2, by a few minutes. But option two seems more reliable. (Note LIT2MOBI seems to handle professionally developed LIT its when I use WordRMR that LIT2MOBI does not work)

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Old 12-29-2008, 05:23 PM   #8
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Many thanks to everyone. I will check out the information you have provided.

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MobiPerl has a lit2mobi command, but I find that MobiPocket's tools are still the best (which may change when Calibre gets an any2mobi capability).
Does mobigen do anything more than lit2mobi?

One reason to use lit2mobi is that it has some flags which can be used to fix the html in a lit file. For certain lit files it is common that the html code is pretty dreadful and will not work properly (one symptom is that all text is centered).
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Perhaps the Edgar Rice Burroughs collections in Mobipocket format here will save you a lot of time in converting the lit files?

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/ebo...mid=128&page=8
These are very nice, thanks for the link!

Still, as an exercise, it is still useful to know how to convert with formating intact.

Cheers and thanks

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One reason to use lit2mobi is that it has some flags which can be used to fix the html in a lit file. For certain lit files it is common that the html code is pretty dreadful and will not work properly (one symptom is that all text is centered).
I see there are now -fixhtml and -keepbr options, but they are not listed on the man page. I don't know if mobigen does a better job when -fixhtml is needed for MobiPerl or not.

It would be useful to make a list of known "bad" LIT files, to use in testing "lit2" and "2mobi" commands.
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I see there are now -fixhtml and -keepbr options, but they are not listed on the man page. I don't know if mobigen does a better job when -fixhtml is needed for MobiPerl or not.

It would be useful to make a list of known "bad" LIT files, to use in testing "lit2" and "2mobi" commands.
I probably did not list them since they were added to solve specific problems and I was unsure how general they were. I think the problem is in files were somebody have taken a text file and saved as html in for example word and then made a lit file of it. And I have mostly seen it in files of "questionable origin" so it is hard to make a test suite...
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Does mobigen do anything more than lit2mobi?
It doesn't always do a great job, but 'mobigen' tries to convert HTML 4.0 / XHTML 1.x and some CSS 1/2 to Mobipocket's HTML 3.2 variant. Most commercial LIT books have markup which degrades fairly well when just tossed at the Mobipocket renderer, but 'mobigen's output is higher-fidelity formatting-wise.

This is the main thing I'm hoping to achieve with oeb2mobi -- leverage full CSS parsing to preserve as much formatting as Mobipocket's markup language allows. I've already something roughly equivalent to Mobiperl's html2mobi, so now for the hard part .
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It doesn't always do a great job, but 'mobigen' tries to convert HTML 4.0 / XHTML 1.x and some CSS 1/2 to Mobipocket's HTML 3.2 variant. Most commercial LIT books have markup which degrades fairly well when just tossed at the Mobipocket renderer, but 'mobigen's output is higher-fidelity formatting-wise.
And CSS and HTML4.0 is allowed in the lit format?

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This is the main thing I'm hoping to achieve with oeb2mobi -- leverage full CSS parsing to preserve as much formatting as Mobipocket's markup language allows. I've already something roughly equivalent to Mobiperl's html2mobi, so now for the hard part .
My main interest with MobiPerl was to get the Mobi header correct so I really did not put in so much effort into the html2mobi program. Using oeb as the format to convert from seems to me the correct thing to do.
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And CSS and HTML4.0 is allowed in the lit format?
Yah. For markup MSReader uses something like, but not quite, OEBPS 1.0 (1.0.1?), which is something like, but not quite, an XML-valid form of HTML 4.0 (which is something like, but not quite XHTML 1.0...). For CSS it supports a subset of CSS 1 & 2, with a simplified selector syntax (no contextual selectors, at all).

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My main interest with MobiPerl was to get the Mobi header correct so I really did not put in so much effort into the html2mobi program. Using oeb as the format to convert from seems to me the correct thing to do.
That's what the IDPF said .
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