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Old 11-13-2008, 07:25 AM   #1
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Dead (or pining?) Parrot sketch originated in Ancient Greece

It seems that there is nothing new under the sun, and that Monty Python derives from classical Greek sources; or so it is claimed here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7725079.stm
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:16 AM   #2
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Thanks for the info, and the reminder about this sketch.
It's a personal favourite, and it was a pleasure seeing it mentioned in one of the books of the Thursday Next series.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:43 AM   #3
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Excellent, Patricia. I found a few more:

http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/quinn_jokes.shtml
A misogynist stood in the marketplace and announced: "I'm putting my wife up for sale, tax-free!" When people asked him why, he said: "So the authorities will impound her."
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:08 AM   #4
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Excellent, Patricia. I found a few more:

http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/quinn_jokes.shtml
A misogynist stood in the marketplace and announced: "I'm putting my wife up for sale, tax-free!" When people asked him why, he said: "So the authorities will impound her."
Wow. Those are real thigh slappers.
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:06 PM   #5
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Wow. Those are real thigh slappers.
Hey, they weren't that bad. I rather liked this one:
Someone needled a well-known wit: "I had your wife, without paying a penny". He replied: "It's my duty as a husband to couple with such a monstrosity. What made you do it?"
Anyway, it's comforting to note that 1600 years ago, there was room for a bit of humor.
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:35 PM   #6
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I hope for Monty Pythons sake, the Philogelos is out of copyright. Hmmm what is that Life plus 1600 years: It'll be close after the latest Disney-Bono Copyright extension act takes hold.
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:41 PM   #7
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Here's some more extracts from this Greek collection:

http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/j...HILOGELOS.HTML
http://www.seniornet.org/php/default.php?PageID=8272

Alas, Jim, the translations are almost certainly in copyright
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I never would have thought that the Norwegian Blue Parrot (beautiful plumage) would have been familiar to the Ancient Greeks.

OK .... now I can't get the image out of my head of the Spartans meeting Xerxes and the Persians at Thermopylae and instead of arrows and swords, the Greeks just stand there doing shtick and actually kill the Persians with laughter.

Xerxes: Look, I came here for an argument!!

Leonidas: Oh, I'm sorry, this is abuse, you want Hypatia, down the coast about a mile.

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Old 11-13-2008, 04:55 PM   #9
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OK .... now I can't get the image out of my head of the Spartans meeting Xerxes and the Persians at Thermopylae and instead of arrows and swords, the Greeks just stand there doing shtick and actually kill the Persians with laughter.
So Monty Python stole that from the Greeks too! ("The Funniest Joke in the World") Which is something completely different then what I was going to post. I was going in the direction of the Spartan's nipples exploding with delite.

Anyone read thru and see if there was any reference to lumberjacks?

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Old 11-13-2008, 07:41 PM   #10
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:08 PM   #11
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You mean the Greeks were expecting the Spanish Inquisition?
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:09 PM   #12
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I wrote a modified translation (into French) of the dead parrot sketch to teach with (I am a K-6 French teacher). The whole part about how he has died and ceased to be is great for teaching past tenses And the rousing conclusion: "It est...un ex-perroquet!" Snerk. I had to simplify parts of it a little, but it's still quite fun. Shall I post it somewhere?
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I wrote a modified translation (into French) of the dead parrot sketch to teach with (I am a K-6 French teacher). The whole part about how he has died and ceased to be is great for teaching past tenses And the rousing conclusion: "It est...un ex-perroquet!" Snerk. I had to simplify parts of it a little, but it's still quite fun. Shall I post it somewhere?
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I *think* this is an earlier draft---I have been making some small revisions as I have been teaching it, but those are saved at school (for now) and I am home. But this is the gist of it Comments are welcome if you read it So far, my only beta-readers were another teacher, and the four 10-12 year olds I have been using it with for enrichment French
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