Gen3 Refresh

Hatgirl · 10-12-2008, 08:09 AM

It seems the Cybook Gen3 may be the reader for me.
Have any of you switched off the Global Refresh? Does the ghosting happen immediately? If it does, can it be cleared by a refresh or is it then permanent?

HarryT · 10-12-2008, 08:16 AM

Ghosting certainly isn't permanent, no. It should clear itself when the machine boots, it nothing else.

ADSR · 10-12-2008, 11:57 AM

The ghosting isn't permanent but it is annoying IMHO. When you select a book from the library and start to read, you can still see trails from the graphics of the library through the text. After a few pageturns this is gone, but then again you'll always still see trails from the previous pages. So I wouldn't recommend turning off global refresh although it seems to save power.

bwaldron · 10-12-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ADSR

The ghosting isn't permanent but it is annoying IMHO.

I agree. The slight extra time taken to do a full refresh is less annoying to me than the ghosting.

pthwaite · 10-12-2008, 02:24 PM

I think it depends on what you are reading. A lot of the time I don't find the ghosting much of a problem. The only real way to tell is try it and see. I do toggle the refresh to see the difference on most books I open & then stick to the one that least bothers me.

I really do like the cybook as a reader, it's ever so light and easy to carry.

HarryT · 10-13-2008, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bwaldron

I agree. The slight extra time taken to do a full refresh is less annoying to me than the ghosting.

The original poster apparently has a problem with the screen inversion giving her a headache - that's why she's asking about using the Gen3 with the "flash" turned off.

bwaldron · 10-13-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The original poster apparently has a problem with the screen inversion giving her a headache - that's why she's asking about using the Gen3 with the "flash" turned off.

I should have been more careful in responding. If the choice were between ghosting and headaches, I would choose the former.

The ghosting isn't horrible by any means.

Jellby · 10-13-2008, 01:21 PM

There's always the possibility of timing the eyes' blinking with the flashing refresh, or looking away...

Hatgirl · 10-14-2008, 06:00 AM

Thanks for the input, everyone! I think the ghosting would be OK, but then again I thought the flash would be OK until I got to use a Sony for a while. Are there any demo videos up on the web that feature the ghosting? I've watched a few demos on YouTube, but none of them featured that.

Over · 10-14-2008, 06:05 AM

youtube's video quality isn't the best way to see that kind of detail.

But's it's funny the flashing gives you an headache. I mean, when you turn a magazine's pages quickly, does that cause you headaches too? There's no flash of light or radiation that could cause those headaches.

Hatgirl · 10-14-2008, 06:27 AM

Nope, paper books are fine. LCDs are fine. CRTs are fine. Daylight and gloom are fine. Smudges on my glasses and my bangs at a certain length were a problem, but I got laser surgery and grew out my hair and that solved that.

I know that YouTube quality isn't great, but watching the page flashes as they demo'd the Cybook gave me a headache like the Sony Reader, so I will probably be able to judge.

Until they develop skull transplants, I'll just have to make do :-D

Over · 10-14-2008, 06:39 AM

I would recommend to check out those ereaders live. I mean, you saw flashing through a computer monitor, the flashing monitor might be the thing that triggers those headaches.

Hatgirl · 10-14-2008, 08:55 AM

As I mentioned earlier up the page, I have had a about 45mins with 2 Sony Readers in Waterstones. I'd love a chance to get to use the Gen3 before I buy, but no bricks-and-mortor shops carry them in Ireland AFAIK. So I am stuck with YouTube etc for figuring out if ghosting would be OK.

pilotbob · 10-14-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatgirl

Thanks for the input, everyone! I think the ghosting would be OK, but then again I thought the flash would be OK until I got to use a Sony for a while. Are there any demo videos up on the web that feature the ghosting? I've watched a few demos on YouTube, but none of them featured that.

You could look at the Jetbook. The reflexive LCD screen is very fast and doesn't flash at all when you turn pages. Many times I actually thought I didn't press the next page button since it changes so fast.

BOb

Hatgirl · 10-14-2008, 11:38 AM

I thought about that, but I want to be able to read it outdoors. AFAIK, it's not too great for that because it's an LCD screen.

10-12-2008, 08:09 AM	#1
Hatgirl Addict Posts: 279 Karma: 441649 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Sony PRS-300, Sony PRS-T1	Gen3 Refresh It seems the Cybook Gen3 may be the reader for me. Have any of you switched off the Global Refresh? Does the ghosting happen immediately? If it does, can it be cleared by a refresh or is it then permanent?

10-12-2008, 08:16 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 54,659 Karma: 26165759 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Touch, PW, Fire HD, iPad 3, iPhone 4, Samsung Tab 2 7 + More	Ghosting certainly isn't permanent, no. It should clear itself when the machine boots, it nothing else. __________________ Harry Currently proofreading The Poison Belt, by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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10-12-2008, 11:57 AM	#3
ADSR Cyreader Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Netherlands Device: Cybook Gen3	The ghosting isn't permanent but it is annoying IMHO. When you select a book from the library and start to read, you can still see trails from the graphics of the library through the text. After a few pageturns this is gone, but then again you'll always still see trails from the previous pages. So I wouldn't recommend turning off global refresh although it seems to save power.

10-12-2008, 02:24 PM	#5
pthwaite Fanatic Posts: 595 Karma: 430 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ellesmere Port, UK Device: DR1000S Sony PRS505 iPad iPhone	I think it depends on what you are reading. A lot of the time I don't find the ghosting much of a problem. The only real way to tell is try it and see. I do toggle the refresh to see the difference on most books I open & then stick to the one that least bothers me. I really do like the cybook as a reader, it's ever so light and easy to carry.

10-13-2008, 01:21 PM	#8
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 5,135 Karma: 2460081 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon	There's always the possibility of timing the eyes' blinking with the flashing refresh, or looking away...

10-14-2008, 06:00 AM	#9
Hatgirl Addict Posts: 279 Karma: 441649 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Sony PRS-300, Sony PRS-T1	Thanks for the input, everyone! I think the ghosting would be OK, but then again I thought the flash would be OK until I got to use a Sony for a while. Are there any demo videos up on the web that feature the ghosting? I've watched a few demos on YouTube, but none of them featured that.

10-14-2008, 06:05 AM	#10
Over Wizard Posts: 1,450 Karma: 3949068 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cascais, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Kindle DXi, Kindle 3, iPad and iPhone 4	youtube's video quality isn't the best way to see that kind of detail. But's it's funny the flashing gives you an headache. I mean, when you turn a magazine's pages quickly, does that cause you headaches too? There's no flash of light or radiation that could cause those headaches.

10-14-2008, 06:27 AM	#11
Hatgirl Addict Posts: 279 Karma: 441649 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Sony PRS-300, Sony PRS-T1	Nope, paper books are fine. LCDs are fine. CRTs are fine. Daylight and gloom are fine. Smudges on my glasses and my bangs at a certain length were a problem, but I got laser surgery and grew out my hair and that solved that. I know that YouTube quality isn't great, but watching the page flashes as they demo'd the Cybook gave me a headache like the Sony Reader, so I will probably be able to judge. Until they develop skull transplants, I'll just have to make do :-D

10-14-2008, 06:39 AM	#12
Over Wizard Posts: 1,450 Karma: 3949068 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cascais, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Kindle DXi, Kindle 3, iPad and iPhone 4	I would recommend to check out those ereaders live. I mean, you saw flashing through a computer monitor, the flashing monitor might be the thing that triggers those headaches.

10-14-2008, 08:55 AM	#13
Hatgirl Addict Posts: 279 Karma: 441649 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Sony PRS-300, Sony PRS-T1	As I mentioned earlier up the page, I have had a about 45mins with 2 Sony Readers in Waterstones. I'd love a chance to get to use the Gen3 before I buy, but no bricks-and-mortor shops carry them in Ireland AFAIK. So I am stuck with YouTube etc for figuring out if ghosting would be OK.

10-14-2008, 11:38 AM	#15
Hatgirl Addict Posts: 279 Karma: 441649 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Sony PRS-300, Sony PRS-T1	I thought about that, but I want to be able to read it outdoors. AFAIK, it's not too great for that because it's an LCD screen.


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