08-05-2008, 01:45 PM | #76 | |
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I don't think you really need to label the fees "conscience money," especially if you're offering services people want (or, at least, think they want)... it becomes a simple service fee. A third-party subsidizers model (advertiser/supporters) would serve to lower fees paid by consumers, much as TV advertising does in the US... it could even pay 100% of the fees, if revenue returns were deemed large enough to warrant full advertiser support. |
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08-05-2008, 01:55 PM | #77 | |
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08-05-2008, 02:59 PM | #80 | |
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My reason for donating was that most of my books were SciFi & the library had a very limited SciFi section. I wanted to see it increased. However it stayed the same as my donations were used to purchase general fiction. |
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08-05-2008, 03:20 PM | #81 |
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What about books which are out-of-print? This is both the vastly overwhelming majority of books ever published. No amount of pirating such books will impact an author's revenue.
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08-05-2008, 03:33 PM | #83 |
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Yes, out of print books are a separate matter entirely. I'm of the opinion that if a book falls out of print for some specified period of time (e.g. 5 years, though I'd actually prefer a shorter period) it should automatically first revert rights completely to the author (if living), then go into the public domain if it still remains out of print.
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08-05-2008, 03:39 PM | #84 | |
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There have also been publishers like Gregg Press (which no longer exists) which specialized in the library market with additional sales to collectors. And in some cases, publishers did hardcovers for library sales, and made money on the PB edition. A good example is the Doubleday SF line of the 50's and 60's. Doubleday published SF in hardcover for the library market, but their contract specified they got 50% of any PB sale, The library sales covered their direct costs. The PB sales contributed their profit. Libraries in the UK remit fees based on checkouts, but I'm not aware of that being done in the US. ______ Dennis |
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08-05-2008, 03:48 PM | #85 | |
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David Hartwell, a Senior Editor at Tor these days, once recounted the time he was a Consulting Editor at Signet/NAL, brought in to breathe life into their SF line. It took him seven months simply to find out what SF Signet had under contract, and another five months to dot Is, cross Ts, and renew rights on stuff they wanted. At that, they lost properties, because 'they" had forgotten they had the rights, but the author or agent hadn't, and promptly asked that the rights revert when the title went out of print. Ebooks and POD are forcing a redefinition of what "out of print" means, with current contracts tending to include specified sales levels for ebooks and POD editions to qualify a book as in print and remaining with the publisher. ______ Dennis Last edited by DMcCunney; 08-05-2008 at 04:28 PM. |
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08-05-2008, 03:55 PM | #86 |
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They basically are. Not RICO specifically, because from what I understand getting a conviction on that is REALLY hard, but some of the people sued by the RIAA are hitting back with countersuits which are very similar to RICO style laws.
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I don't know how I feel about POD counting as still being "in print." They tend to be expensive to the consumer, and not much margin for the author, either. |
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08-05-2008, 04:27 PM | #88 | |
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08-05-2008, 05:06 PM | #89 | |
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US libraries DO NOT pay an extra copyright fee either at purchase time or based on actual usage. They simply buy the book. Some other countries have such fees (the U.K., for example). I've never yet heard a satisfactory explanation of how these fees make their way to authors (although I'm sure someone knows). I certainly hope that it isn't like record company accounting. Or Hollywood accounting, which is even worse. Xenophon |
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08-05-2008, 05:27 PM | #90 | |
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http://www.plrinternational.com/esta...trators/uk.htm Authors register, and then the PLR fund is divvied up between them based on the number of loans. Libraries' computerised issuing system tracks the number of loans. In 2008 it worked out at just under 6 pence per loan, up to a maximum annual payment of £6,600. Last edited by Sparrow; 08-05-2008 at 05:30 PM. |
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