Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > Reading Recommendations

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-23-2008, 06:05 PM   #31
Xenophon
curmudgeon
Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Xenophon ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Xenophon's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,453
Karma: 5657812
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA
Device: Kobo Aura (soon), (soon-to-be-ex)nook, (ex)PRS-700, (ex)PRS-500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
Do you know what I want as an ebook?

Idiot's Guide to Anthropophagy


P.S. This was a joke.
How about a copy of "To Serve Man"???

Hint: It's a cookbook...

Xenophon
Xenophon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 06:26 PM   #32
zelda_pinwheel
zeldinha zippy zeldissima
zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
zelda_pinwheel's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,828
Karma: 908606
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Paris, France
Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
How about a copy of "To Serve Man"???

Hint: It's a cookbook...

Xenophon
but, Xenophon, is it available as an e-book ??
zelda_pinwheel is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Advertisement
Old 06-23-2008, 08:06 PM   #33
Nate the great
Sir Penguin of Edinburgh
Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nate the great's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,604
Karma: 3586209
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro area
Device: Shake a stick plus 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
How about a copy of "To Serve Man"???

Hint: It's a cookbook...

Xenophon
I was going to do a list of books, and that was on it. Another title would have been "Selected Recipes of the Sierra Nevadas" by George Donner. Also "The Uruguayan Air Force Cookbook". But then I decided to go for the simple and obscure. That's how my sense of humor works. Plus, some of the titles were unfair.
Nate the great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 08:51 PM   #34
RickyMaveety
Holy S**T!!!
RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.RickyMaveety lived happily ever after.
 
RickyMaveety's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,186
Karma: 108401
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: San Diego, California!!
Device: Kindle and iPad
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
I was going to do a list of books, and that was on it. Another title would have been "Selected Recipes of the Sierra Nevadas" by George Donner. Also "The Uruguayan Air Force Cookbook". But then I decided to go for the simple and obscure. That's how my sense of humor works. Plus, some of the titles were unfair.
Nah .... I think having a book by Alfred Packer would go further than one by George Donner. (This despite the fact that his family's name was the one associated with the ill-fated group. As I recall, he was not one of the people actually accused of cannibalism.)
RickyMaveety is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 12:14 AM   #35
DMcCunney
New York Editor
DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DMcCunney's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,182
Karma: 7350237
Join Date: Aug 2007
Device: Palm TX, Azpen A727 tablet, Fujitsu Lifebook p2110 w/ FBReader
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward View Post
There are works recently gone into the public domain in (life + 50) countries that I would be willing to do the work on, but I'm legally bound to do nothing on them for the rest of my life...

Coming soon to public domain in life + 50 countries.

James Branch Cabell (Jan 1, 2009)
Such as? An awful lot of Cabell is already available.

Quote:
Henry Kuttner (Jan 1, 2009)
A fair bit of Kuttner, too. I have _the Dark World_, _The Time Axis_, _The Valley of the Flame_, and _The Creature from Beyond Infinity_ here.

Quote:
Lester Dent (80% of the Doc Savages written)
(Jan 1, 2010)
They used to be available. So did The Shadow. I think I have them all.

Quote:
Raymond Chandler (Jan 1, 2010)
Ernest Hemmingway (Jan 1, 2012)
It would be nice to see these folks, however.
______
Dennis
DMcCunney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 09:10 AM   #36
zelda_pinwheel
zeldinha zippy zeldissima
zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.zelda_pinwheel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
zelda_pinwheel's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,828
Karma: 908606
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Paris, France
Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?
oh, Raymond Chandler, yes please !!!
zelda_pinwheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 09:48 AM   #37
Nate the great
Sir Penguin of Edinburgh
Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nate the great's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,604
Karma: 3586209
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro area
Device: Shake a stick plus 1
A note about Doc Savage:

They are not in the public domain. The files had previously been hosted on PG Australia because the admin had turned a blind eye.
Nate the great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 10:51 AM   #38
Ralph Sir Edward
Gentleman & Cynic
Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ralph Sir Edward's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,724
Karma: 13899548
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 5 generation native Texan
Device: BeBook/Openinkpot, CYbook 3rd gen awaiting RTF software upgrade
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
A note about Doc Savage:

They are not in the public domain. The files had previously been hosted on PG Australia because the admin had turned a blind eye.

Nate, this brings in a piece of copyright law that I'm not fully knowledgeable about. How do works for hire copyright length get set? Particularly in a life + 50 country? Since Laurence Donovan died in 1950, life + 50 should be 2000 (i.e.public domain in a life + 50 country). How is that being overridden? (anybody else who knows the answer, please chime in.) RSE
Ralph Sir Edward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 11:12 AM   #39
pilotbob
Grand Sorcerer
pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pilotbob ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
pilotbob's Avatar
 
Posts: 19,632
Karma: 11390499
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tampa, FL USA
Device: Kindle Touch
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward View Post
Nate, this brings in a piece of copyright law that I'm not fully knowledgeable about. How do works for hire copyright length get set? Particularly in a life + 50 country? Since Laurence Donovan died in 1950, life + 50 should be 2000 (i.e.public domain in a life + 50 country). How is that being overridden? (anybody else who knows the answer, please chime in.) RSE
There are different rules when an entity (corporation, etc) owns a copyright. In this case it is based on the date the item was first published. From the US Government copyright FAQ:

For an anonymous work, a pseudonymous work, or a work made for hire, the copyright endures for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first.

Other countries may be different.

BOb
pilotbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 11:36 AM   #40
Ralph Sir Edward
Gentleman & Cynic
Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ralph Sir Edward's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,724
Karma: 13899548
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 5 generation native Texan
Device: BeBook/Openinkpot, CYbook 3rd gen awaiting RTF software upgrade
Quote:
Originally Posted by pilotbob View Post
There are different rules when an entity (corporation, etc) owns a copyright. In this case it is based on the date the item was first published. From the US Government copyright FAQ:

For an anonymous work, a pseudonymous work, or a work made for hire, the copyright endures for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first.

Other countries may be different.

BOb

Thanks mucho, PilotBOb. The Mickey Mouse act of the late 90's suddenly became clear! 1999 - 70 was 1929, when Talkies first came available in Hollyweird. The pulps were just "collateral damage" for saving the copyrights on all the Talkies that hadn't accidentally fallen into the public domain due to their renewals not being properly filed....
Ralph Sir Edward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 11:39 AM   #41
Nate the great
Sir Penguin of Edinburgh
Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nate the great's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,604
Karma: 3586209
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro area
Device: Shake a stick plus 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward View Post
Nate, this brings in a piece of copyright law that I'm not fully knowledgeable about. How do works for hire copyright length get set? Particularly in a life + 50 country? Since Laurence Donovan died in 1950, life + 50 should be 2000 (i.e.public domain in a life + 50 country). How is that being overridden? (anybody else who knows the answer, please chime in.) RSE
I had to go look it up again, and I don't think Commonwealth countries have a work for hire rule. I've found anonymous author rules, but that's not the same thing. Pilotbob is correct on the years.

BTW, not all the Doc Savage novels are work for hire in the US. I know of at least once that Conde Nast, the copyright holder, bought the copyright from an author's widow. I don't think any of the books are work for hire.
Nate the great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 12:02 PM   #42
Ralph Sir Edward
Gentleman & Cynic
Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ralph Sir Edward's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,724
Karma: 13899548
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 5 generation native Texan
Device: BeBook/Openinkpot, CYbook 3rd gen awaiting RTF software upgrade
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
I had to go look it up again, and I don't think Commonwealth countries have a work for hire rule. I've found anonymous author rules, but that's not the same thing. Pilotbob is correct on the years.

BTW, not all the Doc Savage novels are work for hire in the US. I know of at least once that Conde Nast, the copyright holder, bought the copyright from an author's widow. I don't think any of the books are work for hire.

Which loops me back to where I started. If a Doc Savage novel was written by author X, what controls the public domain date in a life + 50 country. (I looked at the Canadian law web site, which implied either 50 years after the publication (Psuedonemus works) or author's life + 50 years. Laurence Donovan died in 1950, Harold A. Davis died in 1955, and Lester Dent died in 1959. The others died much later or are currently undetermined.) Are there overriding treaty agreements with the US?
Ralph Sir Edward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 12:19 PM   #43
Nate the great
Sir Penguin of Edinburgh
Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Nate the great ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Nate the great's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,604
Karma: 3586209
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro area
Device: Shake a stick plus 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward View Post
Which loops me back to where I started. If a Doc Savage novel was written by author X, what controls the public domain date in a life + 50 country. (I looked at the Canadian law web site, which implied either 50 years after the publication (Pseudonymous works) or author's life + 50 years. Laurence Donovan died in 1950, Harold A. Davis died in 1955, and Lester Dent died in 1959. The others died much later or are currently undetermined.) Are there overriding treaty agreements with the US?
In Canada, the pd date is the year the author died +51. For example, Laura Ingalls Wilder died in 1957. On 1 January 2008 her works entered the public domain in Canada.

Since Canada is a strict death+50, so the first two are out of copyright in Canada right now. We can host their works here at MobileRead if someone will upload it. The third author's work will become pd on 1 January, 2010.

Australia is the same except for the thirds author. The Dent works have a copyright of death+70 because of a 2006 treaty signed with the USA.

P.S. Just because the work is still in copyright in the US doesn't mean it is in other countries.
Nate the great is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 12:29 PM   #44
Ralph Sir Edward
Gentleman & Cynic
Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Ralph Sir Edward ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Ralph Sir Edward's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,724
Karma: 13899548
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 5 generation native Texan
Device: BeBook/Openinkpot, CYbook 3rd gen awaiting RTF software upgrade
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nate the great View Post
In Canada, the pd date is the year the author died +51. For example, Laura Ingalls Wilder died in 1957. On 1 January 2008 her works entered the public domain in Canada.

Since Canada is a strict death+50, so the first two are out of copyright in Canada right now. We can host their works here at MobileRead if someone will upload it. The third author's work will become pd on 1 January, 2010.

Australia is the same except for the thirds author. The Dent works have a copyright of death+70 because of a 2006 treaty signed with the USA.

P.S. Just because the work is still in copyright in the US doesn't mean it is in other countries.

Thanks, Nate. I can't do the work, as I live in the land of the Mouse, but my list of Coming Soon is still valid.
Ralph Sir Edward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2008, 01:22 PM   #45
DMcCunney
New York Editor
DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DMcCunney ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DMcCunney's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,182
Karma: 7350237
Join Date: Aug 2007
Device: Palm TX, Azpen A727 tablet, Fujitsu Lifebook p2110 w/ FBReader
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward View Post
Thanks, Nate. I can't do the work, as I live in the land of the Mouse, but my list of Coming Soon is still valid.
That's actually an interesting question.

You live in the US, where a work is still in copyright. It's out of copyright elsewhere, and you find an electronic copy, which you massage into a form usable by MobileRead visitors. You upload it for posting, and it gets stored on a server where the copyright has expired and it's a legal download.

How much trouble can you be in for having done the conversion? And who would be likely to go after you for having done it?

I'd be more worried about possible dangers to MobileRead for accepting work from from me in that case than I'd be about getting in trouble for doing it.

Copyright infringement suits presume damage in the form of lost revenues from the infringement, and take time and cost money to prosecute. Someone would have to see real potential losses to bother.

I'm not sure I'd let living in the US deter me from doing the work.
______
Dennis
DMcCunney is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone wish to trade ebooks ??? [NON-COPYRIGHTED EBOOKS ONLY] danmack General Discussions 9 07-26-2011 11:31 AM
Mobigen Mass Batch conversion of HTML-Single-File ebooks to .mobi ebooks cklammer Kindle Formats 9 11-20-2009 04:00 AM
The Land of eBooks - Comparisions in Availability and Pricing of U.S. eBooks Gideon News 6 07-21-2009 05:22 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:50 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.