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Old 06-20-2008, 02:49 PM   #1
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Unhappy Locations? Whatever happened to page numbers?

Please forigve me if this topic has been broached a thousand times before since the release of the Kindle.

I do not understand the Locations system. To what do the numbers correspond? Is there any way/hack/anything to translate these locations into conventional page numbers.

The Kindle seems like a fine device. However, in the instance of page numbers it would seem that Sony has the upper hand. At least when I have a more conventional system (i.e. 17 of 405 -or whatever) I get some idea of how far I am in the book in question. The location system is gibberish to me at this time.
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:43 PM   #2
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We've had this discussion for the Gen3. It's been decided that page number do not work in Mobipocket due to bugs in the software. It's because of the way they do 64k blocks. It causes other bugs as well.
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Please forigve me if this topic has been broached a thousand times before since the release of the Kindle.

I do not understand the Locations system. To what do the numbers correspond? Is there any way/hack/anything to translate these locations into conventional page numbers.

The Kindle seems like a fine device. However, in the instance of page numbers it would seem that Sony has the upper hand. At least when I have a more conventional system (i.e. 17 of 405 -or whatever) I get some idea of how far I am in the book in question. The location system is gibberish to me at this time.
That, and page numbers don't make much sense in a system where every change of font sizes is going to change the number of potential pages.

I've only had my Kindle a little over a week, but I have already gotten very used to the numbering system. And, with the ease of bookmarking, searching and annotating, I have found that most of the time it simply doesn't matter to me what "page" I am on. I can always find what I want or where I was in the book.
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:13 PM   #4
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I do like the numbering on the Sony, I'm betting Kindle will have page numbers one day
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:21 PM   #5
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Please forigve me if this topic has been broached a thousand times before since the release of the Kindle.

I do not understand the Locations system. To what do the numbers correspond? Is there any way/hack/anything to translate these locations into conventional page numbers.

The Kindle seems like a fine device. However, in the instance of page numbers it would seem that Sony has the upper hand. At least when I have a more conventional system (i.e. 17 of 405 -or whatever) I get some idea of how far I am in the book in question. The location system is gibberish to me at this time.
The numbers are multiples of 128 Bytes.

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Old 06-25-2008, 11:32 PM   #6
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As far as Mobipocket eBooks go, the system used for page numbering is seriously broken. It doesn't work. The only way to get page numbers is for Mobipocket to rewrite the program from scratch. It's an inherent flaw in the way they do blocks to keep the speed. Andthey only way that can be fixed is a total overhall.
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:20 AM   #7
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As far as Mobipocket eBooks go, the system used for page numbering is seriously broken. It doesn't work. The only way to get page numbers is for Mobipocket to rewrite the program from scratch. It's an inherent flaw in the way they do blocks to keep the speed.
That is not true. The block thing has nothing to do with it.
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Old 07-03-2008, 11:34 PM   #8
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I'm odd I suppose. I don't care about page numbers, or the lack of them. As long as I can find my place in a book, and have a general estimate of how much more I've got to read then I'm fine. The Kindle handles both of those tasks just fine, that's good enough for me.

btw: I never bother looking at the location numbers either. I just glance at the black line at the bottom once in a while to see where I am.

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I prefer the location numbers because they are consistent. Page numbers that change depending on font would annoy me. I think a better system yet would be a Chapter + Paragraph Number system, similar to the Bible. It would allow people with various editions of books to agree on a location within a text.
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This is for a kindle fire....
The issue we are having is that we have a Hard Copy book 679 pages and the Kindle e-book
Has no pages just locations . i.e When we are at pg 450, in the hard copy, our kindle users have a difficult time go To that page .
I created a table that corresponds to Pg to location i.e pg 450 =loc 4479
This is ok but still a little inconvenient.

My app Does open the book and Kindle reader but Im still struggling to
Find the commands that after the book opens to go to a particular location.

Once I can find that command.
I can write a script i.e if pg 450 then go Loc 4479

This is part of my Java script
Intent intent = new Intent();
intent.setAction(android.content.Intent.ACTION_VIE W);
File file = new File("/sdcard/Books/test.prc");
intent.setDataAndType(Uri.fromFile(file), "application/x-mobipocket-ebook");
startActivity(intent);


Ay Ideas

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Old 07-17-2013, 09:21 PM   #11
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:59 PM   #12
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I like the idea. I myself ignore the last digit on the locations, it becomes a more intuitive number to deal with.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:41 PM   #13
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This is for a kindle fire....
The issue we are having is that we have a Hard Copy book 679 pages and the Kindle e-book
Has no pages just locations . i.e When we are at pg 450, in the hard copy, our kindle users have a difficult time go To that page .
I created a table that corresponds to Pg to location i.e pg 450 =loc 4479
This is ok but still a little inconvenient.

My app Does open the book and Kindle reader but Im still struggling to
Find the commands that after the book opens to go to a particular location.

Once I can find that command.
I can write a script i.e if pg 450 then go Loc 4479

This is part of my Java script
Intent intent = new Intent();
intent.setAction(android.content.Intent.ACTION_VIE W);
File file = new File("/sdcard/Books/test.prc");
intent.setDataAndType(Uri.fromFile(file), "application/x-mobipocket-ebook");
startActivity(intent);


Ay Ideas

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If they are older kindles look at firmware upgrade.

If it is an older book maybe convert with calibre with page number option.

Helen

Sorry did not notice kindle fire

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