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Old 06-09-2008, 03:46 AM   #1
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Question How does PDF read in Cybook

Hi Guys, am new to this forum. I'm inclined to buy Cybook but would like to know first how pdf files perform on this. Does it re-flow the pages or do I need to convert it first? How about the images? I would appreciate any inputs. Thanks
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:18 AM   #2
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The Gen3 is excellent as a MobiPocket book reader, but PDF support is extremely poor. If you can convert your PDFs to Mobi format (eg using the Windows MobiPocket Desktop Reader) then fine, but don't buy a Gen3 if reading PDF's "natively" is important to you.
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but PDF support is extremely poor.
Well, it depends on the kind of PDF you intend to read.

For A4-size, complex PDFs, that's true, the Cybook will show tiny text, hang, display blank figures or pages...

But for PDFs formatted for the Cybook size (for instance, those I have uploaded to the "Other Books" forum), it usually works fine. I miss bookmarks and hyperlinks, though.

I understand most people would expect "PDF" to mean "every PDF file I can find around", but myself, when I bought the Cybook, I wanted it to open the "PDF files I create", so it is good enough for my needs
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A more direct answer to the original question:

PDF pages are basically displayed as images, i.e., no reflow. You can set the "zoom level" to fit height or fit width, and you can also choose a landscape orientation (and then you can sort of "scroll" the page in steps).

As I said, PDFs don't support hyperlinks or bookmarks (yet?), all you have is the "go to page..." menu for navigation.

Images and diagrams embedded in PDFs will display fine provided they are not too large and complex. Colours are converted to grayscale (of course), and light colours may be displayed as white.
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Hey guys, thank you so much for the inputs. I think I'll gonna try the Cybook as Iliad price is way off my budget.
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Well, it depends on the kind of PDF you intend to read.

For A4-size, complex PDFs, that's true, the Cybook will show tiny text, hang, display blank figures or pages...

But for PDFs formatted for the Cybook size (for instance, those I have uploaded to the "Other Books" forum), it usually works fine. I miss bookmarks and hyperlinks, though.

I understand most people would expect "PDF" to mean "every PDF file I can find around", but myself, when I bought the Cybook, I wanted it to open the "PDF files I create", so it is good enough for my needs
Hi Jelby, thanks for your comment. Just would like to know how you create your pdf files for the cybook. Suppose that I have A4 size pdf with few images and I want to create another pdf file custom-made for the cybook.Any special software for this?
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Jelby's talking about creating custom PDFs from, say, Word docs, or something like that. For that, you can use a "PDF printer" and set a custom page size of the Gen3's screen size (120x90mm). That works OK. The problem comes when you have a PDF formatted for A4/Letter page size. There's no way to "resize" a PDF page (other than to do something like chop it vertically or horizontally into two pages).
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HarryT is right, I create my PDFs from the raw text (from Project Gutenberg, for example) with pdfLaTeX. This gives me complete control on the final size, look and layout of the PDF, and I still have the posibility to change the text and format if I need/want to. It does not allow "on the fly" reflow or format change, as I have to "recompile" the document everytime, but I like it my way.

Even though I don't use a "PDF printer", it's a bit like that. With paper, one would have the the text in the computer and then print it for reading, with a given font, formatting, etc. With e-paper, instead of printing to paper, I "print" to PDF. Once "printed", I cannot change the PDF, but I can change the source text and "print" it again.
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Thanks so much. Have now a clearer picture what to expect.
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For custom PDF files and Mobipocket books you can use Feedbooks: http://www.feedbooks.com
The demo PDF files included on the Cybook are from Feedbooks.
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Thanks so much. Have now a clearer picture what to expect.
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One thing I might add, is that if you get the CyBook Gen3 , don't upgrade the firmware to the latest version available, if you plan to use it for PDF's.

It while fixing some other problems, breaks the PDF viewing for large no of files. But, the version that comes pre installed, does do almost everything reasonably well.
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