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Old 06-01-2008, 01:56 PM   #1
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Question about Cybook PDF support

Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade from the PRS-500 to an E Ink reader that natively supports PDF, and especially HTML. I prefer the size of the Cybook to the Iliad (the Sony Reader fits in my coat pockets), but have a question.

What's the current state of the Cybook's PDF support? I'm particularly interested in whether or not it can rescale letter-size documents without manual conversion. Having to convert PDFs prior to transferring them is one of my motivations for finding a more capable reader, but the various reviews I've read are unclear and very likely outdated.
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:03 PM   #2
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PDF support on the Gen3 is extremely poor. I really would not buy one if PDF is important to you. It will display some PDF documents, but it seems to be pretty much "pot luck" what will or won't display. Docs formatted for A4/Letter will generally be pretty unreadable on a 6" screen.

The only eInk bookreader which could be described as "good" for such files is the iRex iLiad, with its larger 8" screen.
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:21 PM   #3
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Thanks, Harry. I just read the "Buggy as hell" thread, and it reaffirmed by reservations about the Cybook. Is the Iliad more or less drag-and-drop with HTML/PDF docs, requiring no desktop conversion? All things considered, that's a higher priority to me than the smaller form factor I would otherwise prefer.

By the way, what's the experience of writing on the Iliad now? I haven't followed the device since the first edition was released.
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:54 PM   #4
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None of the readers reflow text PDF’s, they see the page as a fixed one, so there is just one solution: the bigger the screen the better - thus the Iliad as a better reader.

The 6 inch screen has not enough size to let one read “normal” PDF’s, what it does is to resize the image, or let you read it in landscape and at better half page of each page - still crap most of the time.

The unique solution is if Bookeen would upgrade the software that permits the reading of PDF’s to support “tagged” PDF’s and so reflow the text accordingly.
Something Adobe’s own reader does for the pocketpc tinny screens, since at least 2002!!!
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The unique solution is if Bookeen would upgrade the software that permits the reading of PDF’s to support “tagged” PDF’s and so reflow the text accordingly.
Something Adobe’s own reader does for the pocketpc tinny screens, since at least 2002!!!
Bookeen used Fitz/MuPDF for their PDF rendering. If that library adds reflow, it's likely to appear in Cybook too. I doubt Bookeen is going to add reflow support on their own.
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Unfortunately, Cybooks PDF handling characteristics still need some fine tuning!
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Hey Gameboy,

I own a cybookgen3, and yes I can read PDF, however, the ability to increase or decrease font size seems to be lacking, or maybe I just don't know to do it. The GEN3 is a marvelous little reader though, you would be hard pressed to find a better one!
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I own a cybookgen3, and yes I can read PDF, however, the ability to increase or decrease font size seems to be lacking, or maybe I just don't know to do it.
You cannot change size of fonts - not on Cybook, not on any other platform. All you can do is zoom in/out.

What you need is reflow - for content to arrange itself according to the size of the screen. But that's another thing entirely...

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Did not know that! Thanks for the information.

Any info if the library you mention will offer the reflow of text functionality? and if so any timeline for it to appear?

Even if I myself do not read much eBooks in PDF format, I do recognize, even if just because the format is almost 100% “owner” of the Business and Journal Academic markets, that the first reader who offers reflow text in PDF’s is going to sell their hardware faster that all the competition combined.

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