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Updated Garnet VM for Nokia ITs Released
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05-29-2008, 07:22 PM | #2 |
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My N800 is still charging so I have to wait. Could someone try the new VM, and tell us what you think? In particular, can someone try Mobipocket and eReader for Palm? This might be a way to add DRMed ebook support to Nokia's Nseries.
The previous VM could do it, yes. But it didn't work very well. |
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Interesting. Not working well, as in, it crashed a lot, or it was just sluggish as a drunken sloth?
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It never crashed for me. No, the problem with the previous VM was that it was a one to one mapping of pixels. This limited it to 320 by 480 out of 800 by 480. It ignored most of the available screen real estate.
This version has a full screen mode, which makes it much more useful. |
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Garnet is the formal name for PalmOS 5. It was developed by Access for Palm way back when. Last fall Access released a Virtual Machine (VM) that let us run PalmOS software on Nokia's Internet Tablets (770, N800, N810). Today they just announced an updated version.
Access is developing the next generation PalmOS on its own, to run on its devices. IT is going to be backward compatible (to some degree). They released this VM so Palm fanatics could keep using their favorite software until Access is ready to release the next operating system. |
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I enclose screenshots of MobiPocket from the original 320 by 480 setup and the new full screen 480 by 720 mode (1.5x scaled?). I don't have an eReader ebooks to try. The fonts are not great, but perhaps there is a way to add new fonts.
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05-29-2008, 10:37 PM | #9 |
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It's been a while since I used the Palm version of Mobipocket Reader, but I think it has several fonts built in.
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I have tried and failed to install on my N800; it says I am missing a dependency. It's late here so I'll try again tomorrow.
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Ereader and Mobipocket
I have a n800 with Garnet vm, which works great, I may add!
Fortunately Ereader works wonderfully with the Garnet vm, but I have a problem with mobipocket. I can download and read free mobi books, but not the drm ones that I have paid for. Has anyone had success with mobipocket protected books on a n800 or b810? |
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Palm's former OS division was spun off some years back as an independent company called Palmsource, in part to try to boost Palm's lagging stock price, and in part to placate major Palm OS licensee Sony, who used Palm OS in their Clie line, and were uncomfortable about having OS development in the hands of a competitor in the PDA market. Sony subsequently decided to exit the PDA market. (The Clie line was profitable, but not profitable enough.) The drop in licensing revenues caused by Sony's withdrawal left Palmsource in a poor position, and they put themselves on the market. Palm tried to buy them back, but got outbid by Japan's ACCESS corp., who wanted an OS to offer to the burgeoning Asian smartphone market. Palmsource had been developing Cobalt, the intended PalmOS 6, which would feature a multitasking, multithreading kernel. Cobalt was reportedly completed, but nobody, including Palm, licensed it. ACCESS announced plans to implement an embedded Linux kernel with Cobalt as the UI layer. Palm apps would talk to Cobalt, Cobalt would talk to Linux, and Linux would talk to the hardware. What ACCESS wound up actually doing was implementing Palm OS Garnet (OS 5) as a virtual machine running on an embedded Linux kernel, to provide a measure of compatibility with existing Palm OS applications. (The Garnet VM executes as a Linux program.) They are shopping the ALP (Access Linux Platform) to vendors interested in implementing it in smartphones. It will be interesting to see how they compete with Google's Android OS and the OpenMoku offering. They offer a beta of the VM as a stand alone product, available as a free download for the Nokia Tablet line. According to an ACCESS rep, it's largely OS version independent, and one of their engineers was able to bring it up on a different Linux kernel than ACCESS uses internally in about a day (Mostly a matter of changing some DEFINES in header files and doing a new build.) Palm, meanwhile, has been working with Wind River systems on their own next gen OS. They have passed on ALP, and have no plans to use the ACCESS offering in Palm devices. Wind River has a long history in embedded development, starting with their own VXWorks OS and later offering Linux based OS products. It appears that Wind River is providing an optimized Linux kernel for ARM devices, while Palm builds the stuff that will run on top of it. Palm also paid ACCESS for a perpetual source code license to Garnet to insure availability and right to modify the code. Palm OS II (or whatever they wind up calling it) isn't scheduled to hit the streets before 2009, so no one knows right now what the product will look like or do. I assume a fair bit of compatibility with existing Palm apps, but I don't know whether they are using a VM approach of have something more closely integrated. When Palm canceled their Foleo product, one reason given was the desire to complete their new OS, which would serve as a base for any future product. This leads to speculation about whether Palm might offer a new version of the Foleo based on Palm OS II, and whether Palm has plans down the road for any devices that aren't smartphones. We'll see. _____ Dennis Last edited by DMcCunney; 06-15-2008 at 03:08 PM. |
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But isn't n800 screen too small to do serious reading?
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Does this program work with pdf files? Thanks
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