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Old 03-25-2014, 03:09 PM   #1
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Diesel ebooks shutting down?

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Diesel eBooks is Closing Shop

Diesel eBooks will be closing at the end of this month. It’s been a great ride! We’re exploring our options – eBooks are still in the infant years and there are many opportunities opening up now and in the future.

IMPORTANT: you must download your eBooks by month end. Downloads will not be possible on April 1st. We want to thank you for being such loyal customers. Understand this doesn’t necessarily mean you won’t see Diesel in another form in the near future.
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20...onth/#comments

According to one of the comments it is true.

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Old 03-25-2014, 04:02 PM   #2
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It wouldn't surprise me if they did shut down. Many of the major publishers don't have their books for sale at Diesel anymore.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:11 PM   #3
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Many of the major publishers don't have their books for sale at Diesel anymore.
They never got some publishers back when Agency pricing started.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:13 PM   #4
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I got an email from them about it. They added at the end that Diesel may be back in a different form sometime in the future, though they didn't give any date when that might be either.
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I got an email from them about it. They added at the end that Diesel may be back in a different form sometime in the future, though they didn't give any date when that might be either.
Sounds like what BoB said when they shut down.
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Diesel has an antitrust suit going over agency.

http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20.../#.UzHZMI7D_MI

When/if they collect they could be back.
BOB has a similar case.

Best case would be Nook if they hadn't been so active in their support for the conspiracy.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:41 PM   #7
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Sounds like what BoB said when they shut down.
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. It sounded very familiar.
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They never got some publishers back when Agency pricing started.
Possibly because Diesel owed them money.
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:31 PM   #9
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Possibly because Diesel owed them money.
It's of course possible, except back then didn't have contracts with each pub just with their distributors and they still were using the same distributors (primarily LightningSource/Ingram). It's my understanding that when Agency came along the stores all had to do contracts with each publisher (even if using a distributor) and the pubs weren't in any kind of hurry to get anything done with the small stores. BoB was missing titles for a long time (don't know if they ever got them all back) and IIRC it was one of the reasons CyberRead gave for closing up shop.
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Sad to see another store go under. I used Diesel for the first time about a month ago. Two books and both are safely in my calibre library.
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It's of course possible, except back then didn't have contracts with each pub just with their distributors and they still were using the same distributors (primarily LightningSource/Ingram). It's my understanding that when Agency came along the stores all had to do contracts with each publisher (even if using a distributor) and the pubs weren't in any kind of hurry to get anything done with the small stores. BoB was missing titles for a long time (don't know if they ever got them all back) and IIRC it was one of the reasons CyberRead gave for closing up shop.
It's possible but after 3 years one would think they would have plenty of time to work out a deal especially for a generic epub e-tailer. Diesel didn't sell The Hunger Games series by Scholastic a non-Agency publisher. Or it's likely Diesel (and BoB) didn't like the terms the publishers offered.

I also suspect that there is some hidden or unusually high cost to running an online ebook store. Something we aren't aware of for all these stores to close. How many ebooks does a site have to sell to cover costs?
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I also suspect that there is some hidden or unusually high cost to running an online ebook store. Something we aren't aware of for all these stores to close. How many ebooks does a site have to sell to cover costs?
Apparently, a lot.

The Adobe Tax is pretty substantial.
Some accounts put the annual costs in the US$100-200k range:

http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20.../#.UzIDRY7D_MI

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It's possible but after 3 years one would think they would have plenty of time to work out a deal especially for a generic epub e-tailer. Diesel didn't sell The Hunger Games series by Scholastic a non-Agency publisher. Or it's likely Diesel (and BoB) didn't like the terms the publishers offered.
I suspect it's a combination of things. Diesel wouldn't have had a contract directly with Scholastic, but it's possible that their distributor didn't have one. LightningSource didn't expand into library stuff (I don't think) the way OverDrive did and for the most part distributors have been cut out of ebooks compared to the way it used to be so I suspect it's not worth it to all publishers to maintain all channels. It really seems like Diesel kinda gave up a year--year and a half ago and quit trying. Parts of their website haven't worked properly for some time.


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I also suspect that there is some hidden or unusually high cost to running an online ebook store. Something we aren't aware of for all these stores to close. How many ebooks does a site have to sell to cover costs?
Oh, no doubt. There's the Adobe tax which I'm sure the distributor passes on, web developers, app developers for the reading app they tried, and CS and lets face it once Sony, Amazon, B&N, Kobo & Apple came along the small stores just have a hard time competing against the integration you get in most of todays readers.
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Oh, no doubt. There's the Adobe tax which I'm sure the distributor passes on, web developers, app developers for the reading app they tried, and CS and lets face it once Sony, Amazon, B&N, Kobo & Apple came along the small stores just have a hard time competing against the integration you get in most of todays readers.
And now we have Amazon with B&N, Google and Kobo having negligible sales. For the e-ink ereader there isn't much left.

Although, somehow ebooks.com and ebookmall.com are still in business. I wonder how they manage it.
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