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Old 04-30-2008, 09:58 AM   #1
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Why is TomeRaider 3 trying to connect to Google IPs?

When I start up TombRaider 3.3.9 , it tries to connect with an IP address that's registered to Google.

I tried using two different 3.3.9 installers just to make sure I didn't download a bad one.
One is from downloads.com and the other is directly from the official TomeRaider website, and both of them produce installations that try to connect with a Google IP address.

The one from downloads.com tries to connect to 209.85.139.176 and the one from the official site tries to connect to 74.125.19.99.
Both are registered to Google.



I really don't like it when any software attempts internet communication without at least asking my permission.
It's sneaky and especially inappropriate for software that I paid $30.00 for.

And I'm particularly bothered that TomeRaider is not only sneaking internet communication, it's sneaking it with a third party IP.


To make matters worse, I scanned TomeRaider's installed files and VBA32 heuristics detected the "Downloader.Small.7" Trojan.

I understand that heuristics scans can often turn up false positives, but I've virtually never had it happen with software that I've paid for.
In fact, the only other times that I can recall receiving false positives with purchased software were when I was scanning complex security software, which is understandable.


Anyway ... I've been unable to find anything on this subject while searching the web, so I figured I'd post here and see if anyone knows what's up.



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Old 04-30-2008, 12:16 PM   #2
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Ash, this doesn't sound good. I suggest you PM Mat directly and ask him for advice.
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:47 PM   #3
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Nothing from Mat yet
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:49 PM   #4
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Anyway ... I've been unable to find anything on this subject while searching the web, so I figured I'd post here and see if anyone knows what's up.
Perhaps you can through Fiddler on your machine and you can actually see what data is being sent/recieved. Perhaps it is just some usage stats or maybe a built in updater like many apps have in them these days.

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Old 05-07-2008, 07:30 AM   #5
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It's not acceptable for TomeRaider to be sending or receiving anything without my permission, even if it is "just" usage stats or a built-in updater.

That's the stuff of spyware and lowly freeware, not reputable software that costs $30.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:33 AM   #6
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It's not nesessarily TomeRaider. It could be one of the DLLs it loads, or even a DLL which is loaded into every new process (antiviruses and firewalls like to do that, or software like Google Desktop). I would recommend investigating the matter properly before accusing anyone. Did you check on another machine? Can anyone else confirm this behavior?
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:01 PM   #7
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I would recommend investigating the matter properly before accusing anyone.
Interesting tone.
Posting in a forum in search of feedback from others isn't quite how I would go about accusing someone of something.
It is, however, how I would go about getting feedback from others.
I think I investigated well enough before posting here, and my posting here is part of my 'investigating the matter' further.



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Did you check on another machine?
Yes
Nothing on either of the machines has ever tried to access a Google IP before installing TomeRaider.



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Can anyone else confirm this behavior?
I'm hoping so.
As you can see, nobody's posted much of anything so far.
I think they're waiting to hear what Mat says, same as me.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:14 PM   #8
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OK, I give up and I'm curious. What is TombRaider? I couldn't find anything about it.

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OK, I give up and I'm curious. What is TombRaider? I couldn't find anything about it.

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Did you look on our wiki?

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Did you look on our wiki?

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I believe the problem may lay with the Lara Croft Effect, which, alas, the wiki cannot rectify (except perhaps with a redirect).

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I believe the problem may lay with the Lara Croft Effect, which, alas, the wiki cannot rectify (except perhaps with a redirect).

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You are correct sir.

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