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Old 02-20-2014, 08:19 PM   #106
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In 20 years we may be ABSORBING books from brain devices and reading with our eyes may be totally unnecessary.
Exactly, and at that point we can fully expect Calibre to be able to take our ancient epubs and beam them into our brains. It's called format conversion.
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:13 PM   #107
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Exactly, and at that point we can fully expect Calibre to be able to take our ancient epubs and beam them into our brains. It's called format conversion.
That will be when Kovid will call it version 2.0.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:07 PM   #108
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Exactly, and at that point we can fully expect Calibre to be able to take our ancient epubs and beam them into our brains. It's called format conversion.
So how would we utilize these beamed books? For me a book unfolds (for want of a better term). For fiction anyway the pleasure is in the reading, page by page.

If an encyclopedia was beamed into my brain, or all of the cookbooks I own, or all of the textbooks I have studied etc. would I know all of that or have to somehow search inside my brain to access them? synapses can be a tad fragile I am told.

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Old 02-23-2014, 11:54 PM   #109
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So how would we utilize these beamed books? For me a book unfolds (for want of a better term). For fiction anyway the pleasure is in the reading, page by page.

If an encyclopedia was beamed into my brain, or all of the cookbooks I own, or all of the textbooks I have studied etc. would I know all of that or have to somehow search inside my brain to access them? synapses can be a tad fragile I am told.

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if so, then @sirmaru is still wrong!
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:45 AM   #110
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Into-the-brain-book-beaming will be a great way to absorb knowledge--if the goal is simply to know/learn stuff. It would be horrible for story-telling. Sure I'd know everything that happened in the book, but I'd have to re-think about all of it in order to present it to myself as some sort of narrative. Then, even that self-thought narrative would be spoiled because I already know how it all turns out.

No, there will be no "beaming" of fiction books. Now if movies could be played directly on my brain-screen... I'd be all about that!
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:55 AM   #111
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Into-the-brain-book-beaming will be a great way to absorb knowledge--if the goal is simply to know/learn stuff. It would be horrible for story-telling. Sure I'd know everything that happened in the book, but I'd have to re-think about all of it in order to present it to myself as some sort of narrative. Then, even that self-thought narrative would be spoiled because I already know how it all turns out.
Not necessarily.
If all it did was disable the external input interrupts while keeping the input filtering active, you could decide the rate of absorption but still be much faster than conventional reading.
(Think of how you might have experienced having a dream that took seemingly hours but in reality only a few minutes passed. The brain can work fast if it's left to itself and doesn't constantly have to query external input resources.)

Anyway, this reminds me of this story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profess...short_story%29
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:32 AM   #112
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Into-the-brain-book-beaming will be a great way to absorb knowledge--if the goal is simply to know/learn stuff. It would be horrible for story-telling. Sure I'd know everything that happened in the book, but I'd have to re-think about all of it in order to present it to myself as some sort of narrative. Then, even that self-thought narrative would be spoiled because I already know how it all turns out.

No, there will be no "beaming" of fiction books. Now if movies could be played directly on my brain-screen... I'd be all about that!
Reminds me of the movie 'Brainstorm'
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:38 AM   #113
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Not necessarily.
If all it did was disable the external input interrupts while keeping the input filtering active, you could decide the rate of absorption but still be much faster than conventional reading.
(Think of how you might have experienced having a dream that took seemingly hours but in reality only a few minutes passed. The brain can work fast if it's left to itself and doesn't constantly have to query external input resources.)

Anyway, this reminds me of this story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profess...short_story%29
Ah... in other words, rather than beaming the story in toto to your brain, you'd still be sort-of "reading" it (or at least processing it) serially. Just at the "speed of brain" instead of the "speed of eye->nerve->brain." I could be down with that.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:57 AM   #114
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Not necessarily.
If all it did was disable the external input interrupts while keeping the input filtering active, you could decide the rate of absorption but still be much faster than conventional reading.
(Think of how you might have experienced having a dream that took seemingly hours but in reality only a few minutes passed. The brain can work fast if it's left to itself and doesn't constantly have to query external input resources.)

Anyway, this reminds me of this story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profess...short_story%29

When a dream seems to take hours, it's not that the brain is working fast, it's just skipping over the boring bits.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:36 PM   #115
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Lord Amazon IS our Backup in the Sky. We need no other since Amazon will outlive all of us.
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Started in 1850. No one ever thought that was going to collapse and vanish, either.

Obviously, though, if you consider books disposable (watch once and chuck) then you don't care if it even works tomorrow. I've met people like that - and I understand it, in a way - but not everyone is like that.

I re-read A Song of Ice and Fire every time a new book comes out. So I've read Game of Thrones like 5-6 times. I've re-read my favorite authors dozens of times - especially folks like Isaac Asimov that I started reading in high school. Whenever I'm having a rough time in life, I re-read the Farseer Trilogy or re-watch Fellowship of the Ring.

What you need to understand is that some people don't feel that these things are disposable, and that they would like to re-read them down the road - and that your viewpoint is not the only correct one.

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Old 02-24-2014, 10:21 PM   #116
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You folks have been amplifying on beaming books to your brains. Just google "Project 2045," and you will see a description of a REAL project being undertaken by a Russian billionaire to beam our brains into avatars which will be called a "full body prosthesis."

You will probably have to be a billionaire to afford that "operation."

If they develop a way to beam our brains into an avatar, beaming books into our brains will be easy. Unfortunately, I won't be alive to try.
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You can't "beam" a brain anywhere. That's just silly. Surely you mean "transfer consciousness."
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