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Old 10-30-2013, 11:38 AM   #61
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I'm not interested in buying it, but the fuss that you are all making over how it looks is way overblown. It is a small bezel and screen... like every other ereader. What is the big deal!?
Because the Nook ST Glowlight was outdated but at least it had a real nice and original design, and until now B&N had good designers. Their devices were not always super duper up to date, but at least they were pretty.

Now it just looks old AND ugly. I agree with Nate, I think B&N is cooked.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:43 AM   #62
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The average consumer do not get as nitpicky as many here you have to remenber. They just want a solid device to read on.
Then the average consumer could just get a Kindle Paperwhite for the same price. The average, not-nitpicky consumer doesn't care about epub vs azw either.

I don't use page turn buttons or an SD card, but I agree that the Nook should have kept these features, in order to differentiate from the competition.

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Old 10-30-2013, 11:51 AM   #63
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I am beyond horrified that it's missing page turn buttons. Time to stock up on the nook simple touch!
Agreed, the current NST seems like a much more desirable device.

In particular, the page turn buttons are so useful that I would never buy an ereader without them.

I am seriously thinking about picking up a GlowLight now while I still can.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:09 PM   #64
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The slightly lighter weight is attractive. The rest just doesn't seem like an advance on the competition. I wonder why the weight is less?
there are no magnets for the cover to automatically turn the device on/off. they also ditched the physical page turn buttons, eliminating some electronics. maybe this accounts for the weight loss. and electronics are shrinking all the time, too. i'm just wondering why they couldn't shrink the bezel a bit.

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...when I saw it had 4gb, until I realized only a quarter of that is any good to me!
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:24 PM   #66
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I like what I'm seeing here, I also like that you can turn the light completely off. I'm waiting for some reviews, I have the old Paperwhite and might just spring for this.
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Then the average consumer could just get a Kindle Paperwhite for the same price. The average, not-nitpicky consumer doesn't care about epub vs azw either.

I don't use page turn buttons or an SD card, but I agree that the Nook should have kept these features, in order to differentiate from the competition.

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The paperwhite isnt an improvement imo and it costs more. Time will tell though. If the nook gets good reviews and better quality control, i will guess that people will forget about the lack of buttons and sd card slot. I find it funny that so many are complaining so vehemently about two things that kindle also does not have. No one has even tried the device yet and have already declared it doa. It has everything to offer that the current kindle does and imo its more pleasing to the eye than the standard tablet look that kindle always seems to use. A refreshing change i must say.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:02 PM   #68
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It seems the software has undergone only minimal changes, so: no web browser or ability to use wifi to download 3rd party content, no landscape mode. Perhaps someone will come up with a way to repartition the space so more is available for side load. I cannot imagine why one would want a library of 2000 B&N books on there if they are all downloadable on demand.
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rem736: However, the weight is in relation to the Kindle PW2, which never had an SD slot. The Kobo Aura has an SD slot as well, and is in a similar weight range. It may be the magnets, as you say.

TBH I don't think that most of the things people are talking about here, with the exception of the color of the bezel, will be a big deal with the mainstream market, which is what really matters for the success of the device. As Tony888 said, if people really cared about that much about the lack of buttons and SD card slot, Kindle PW wouldn't be the top e-reader (in the US and UK, but since we're talking about Nook, only the US and UK markets are in question here)

I think what's going to make more of a difference are programs like Matchbook and software features. The main update Nook seems to be touting now are recommendations.
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I cannot imagine why one would want a library of 2000 B&N books on there if they are all downloadable on demand.
Well, you know how it is. Today they are, tomorrow - who knows...

I think chances of B&N surviving in the long term are pretty low. While they are surviving your purchases should be safe, but two-three years from now... At least Borders had Kobo to transfer the purchases to before going belly up.
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The paperwhite isnt an improvement imo and it costs more.
They're the same price - $119 each.

If I were in the market for a new ereader (and I'm not), this one would be DOA because its white; I don't care how well it performed otherwise. A white bezel is the kiss of death.
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I thought the Kindle hacks worked on the KT, PW1, and PW2...
No hacks work on the PW2 yet, for the average user. Some of the electronic engineers are doing things with theirs, which involved opening the case, which I am not willing to do! But I am hopeful that at some point they will jailbreak so we can do a little hacking. I would like more margin control. I saw in one of the CNet videos that the new Nook can display text all the way to the edges. I wish my Kindle PW2 could do that.
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They're the same price - $119 each.

If I were in the market for a new ereader (and I'm not), this one would be DOA because its white; I don't care how well it performed otherwise. A white bezel is the kiss of death.
The white doesn't bother me. But of course there is no way to get rid of the BN recommendations (ADS) that fill half the screen. That is a kiss of death, for me. Yes, I paid the $20 to get rid of the ads on my PW1 and my PW2. $139 is well worth a quality piece of hardware.
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there are no magnets for the cover to automatically turn the device on/off.
The old Glow didn't allow for auto turn-off either (at least mine never has) and in any event those magnets would be in the cover not the reader.

The lack of an SD slot will presumably kill the rooting options. Shame.
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Well, you know how it is. Today they are, tomorrow - who knows...

I think chances of B&N surviving in the long term are pretty low. While they are surviving your purchases should be safe, but two-three years from now... At least Borders had Kobo to transfer the purchases to before going belly up.
Unlike Kindle DRM and Adobe Adept DRM, B&N's social DRM allows you to make backup copies of your books that can be read on any device supporting the DRM, without needing a DRM server.

You should make a backup of your books anyway, because no bookstore can guarantee that you will always be able to re-download your books.
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