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Old 08-24-2013, 07:44 AM   #1
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I'd like that date remains sorted in descending order

Hello,

New question :

For some convenience reasons, I always use the descending order when I sort on Date column.

Imagine the following case :

All my books are sorted by date (descending order), so all my recently imported books are on the top of the list. I want to verify if a tag of a book is coherent with the older books of the collection (serie), so I select the more recently imported book of this collection, and click on column "Serie". Once the sorting process achieved, I can check what I want. So I want to go back to the sorting order "by date", and each time, the sort order is set to ascendant. So I must click a second time on the Date column to return to my favourite sorting order.

Is there a way for each column to memorize the sorting order (ascendent or descendent) , so that you can switch between between different column sorting, without having to change each time the sorting order.

I'm a not sure if I 've been clear enough.
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Another way to check, without loosing the context, could be to highlight the new book and press Ctrl-S to show only the other books in the same series. Then it should be quick to verify that the tags are consistent. You could also press Ctrl-A to check the books by the same author.
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You may be able to do what you want using Calibre's Quickview feature, and leave sorting as it is.
  • Make sure that Tags are being displayed in the Book details panel - Preferences->Look&Feel->Book details
  • Ensure that Book Details Panel is displayed
  • Highlight the Series cell of a book on which you want to check tag consistency
  • Press 'q' on keyboard
  • You will get a list of the books in the Series in a QuickView panel
  • If you double click a book in the Quickview panel it will be made current in the Book List and the Details will change you can see the Tags
  • Even though the QuickView panel is displayed, you have full access to Book List functions so

    • You can edit metadata via the Edit Metadata Window or directly into the Detail for the current book
    • You could also use the Temp Marker plugin to 'mark' books so you can come back later (before closing Calibre) and deal with them
That looks more complicated than it actually is

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PS the View Manager plugin is good for saved sort sequences.

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Old 08-24-2013, 09:53 AM   #4
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Another way to check, without loosing the context, could be to highlight the new book and press Ctrl-S to show only the other books in the same series. Then it should be quick to verify that the tags are consistent. You could also press Ctrl-A to check the books by the same author.
I try it.

It functions well, but if sorted by date, all the books are scattered among the library, and I don't want to scroll among 17K ebooks,

MAy be I did'nt understand something in your purpose.


Oupssss !

Forget it,

I've tried this with the highlight functionality on. It's faaaaaaaaaar better when the search appears in a separate window ....

I'm confused

It's a good way to do what I want.


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But, if, in the future of Calibre 1.x, it could be possible for a sorting order to be memorized, I think I would'nt be the only one to appreciate (Kovid ??? .

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Old 08-24-2013, 10:07 AM   #5
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But, if, in the future of Calibre 1.x, it could be possible for a sorting order to be memorized, I think I would'nt be the only one to appreciate (Kovid ??? .
There is a tweak that can set a Startup sort. It is limited to 3 columns and the can be set for either ascending or descending order.

With 17K books, this WILL impact your startup time
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There is a tweak that can set a Startup sort. It is limited to 3 columns and the can be set for either ascending or descending order.

With 17K books, this WILL impact your startup time
I don't understand what you mean with "There is a tweak that can set a Startup sort", sorry.

What I would like to have for Calbre's behaviour is :

After having chosen a sorting order on a column (i.e: Date by descending order) , if you click on another column and after a while, you click again on the date column you are still in descending order. I'm not programmer, but I think that such on option may not be difficult to implement.
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I don't understand what you mean with "There is a tweak that can set a Startup sort", sorry.

What I would like to have for Calbre's behaviour is :

After having chosen a sorting order on a column (i.e: Date by descending order) , if you click on another column and after a while, you click again on the date column you are still in descending order. I'm not programmer, but I think that such on option may not be difficult to implement.
Do go to Preferences: Tweaks:
Select a (tweak)title in the Left column, read the descriptions to get an idea of what the various tweaks offer.

Instead of Click on a column header,
RIGHT-click: sort on <column name>: Decending (this does not save clicks, but does save sort CPU time)
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But, if, in the future of Calibre 1.x, it could be possible for a sorting order to be memorized, I think I would'nt be the only one to appreciate (Kovid ??? .
I've suggested something similar. A virtual bookmark for virtual libraries. If you have the books sorted by author, and have a book highlighted, then it would be nice if that book was used as a virtual bookmark when you change virtual libraries. So you would see other books by the same author in other VLs, or the lack of books by that author. As it is now the new VL is shown from the top.

But to no avail...
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But, if, in the future of Calibre 1.x, it could be possible for a sorting order to be memorized, I think I would'nt be the only one to appreciate (Kovid ??? .
Calibre can do this, and a lot more, via the View Manager plugin

Did you try using Quickview, I think it will do exactly what you want. Its a very powerful feature of Calibre that is often overlooked, probably because it doesn't have a pretty button to press. QuickView Documentation .

BTW : I think there is an error in that doco

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Double-click on a book in the Quickview window to select that book in the library view. This will also change the items display in the [Quickview is wrong, it should be Book Details] window(the left-hand pane) to show the items in the newly-selected book.
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Do go to Preferences: Tweaks:
Select a (tweak)title in the Left column, read the descriptions to get an idea of what the various tweaks offer.

Instead of Click on a column header,
RIGHT-click: sort on <column name>: Decending (this does not save clicks, but does save sort CPU time)

OK, I've switched the language of Calibre from French to English, But I didn't find anything that can help me.
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Calibre can do this, and a lot more, via the View Manager plugin

Did you try using Quickview, I think it will do exactly what you want. Its a very powerful feature of Calibre that is often overlooked, probably because it doesn't have a pretty button to press. QuickView Documentation .

BTW : I think there is an error in that doco



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I've just tried it, but it's not what I want. OK, after the launch of Calibre, the books are sorted by date, in descending order. But if I sort on author, and back on date, I'm not in descending order like before, but in ascending order.

I would like Calibre to memorize the sorting order of each column, until it's modified by user.
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I've just tried it, but it's not what I want. OK, after the launch of Calibre, the books are sorted by date, in descending order. But if I sort on author, and back on date, I'm not in descending order like before, but in ascending order.

I would like Calibre to memorize the sorting order of each column, until it's modified by user.
You can lodge a Change Request here https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre

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The documentation is correct. The left-hand QV pane does change to reflect the items for the newly-selected book in the same way it would if you clicked directly on the book. For example, assume you are using QV on tags and are looking the tags for book 'A'. Further assume that book A has one tag, foo, that book 'B' also has tag foo as well as several others. When book A is selected you will see 'foo' in QV's left hand pane and (perhaps amongst others) books A and B in the right-hand pane. Double click on book B in QV. That book will be selected in the spreadsheet pane, and the tags in the QV pane will be updated to show all the tags associated with book B, which of course includes foo.

You are correct to say that the book details pane is updated, but this should be true whenever a book is selected through any method.
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The documentation is correct. The left-hand QV pane does change to reflect the items for the newly-selected book in the same way it would if you clicked directly on the book. For example, assume you are using QV on tags and are looking the tags for book 'A'. Further assume that book A has one tag, foo, that book 'B' also has tag foo as well as several others. When book A is selected you will see 'foo' in QV's left hand pane and (perhaps amongst others) books A and B in the right-hand pane. Double click on book B in QV. That book will be selected in the spreadsheet pane, and the tags in the QV pane will be updated to show all the tags associated with book B, which of course includes foo.
@chaley - gotcha

I've only ever wanted to control the spreadsheet from the QV list. I've never wanted or even thought of controlling the QV list from the spreadsheet (other than pressing 'q' on a cell). This reflects the purpose for which I currently use QV, which I suspect may be atypical.

Your post has help me understand why I sometimes get 'frustrated' with QV.

What I would like is a checkbox on the QV window to Lock the contents so that a) when I restore a minimized Locked QV window its contents are the same as they were when it was minimized, and b) to prevent me from inadvertently 'losing track of what I was doing' when I get distracted. It would be good if the QV Locked state was persistent across calibre executions.

Why I want the Lock on the QV window itself and not in Preferences.

Now that I understand the other 'usage mode' I think I can see how I could use it for a purpose that is discrete from my current usage. In that instance I obviously would not want to lock the QV contents. Except maybe if I minimized the QV window - need to think about that
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You are correct to say that the book details pane is updated, but this should be true whenever a book is selected through any method.
And of course its on the right and not the left. The Book Details panel is what I look as I traverse the QV list but it does not behave as I think it should. I don't know if the following are doable

It would be good for me if the book list tracked the QV list as I traverse it with the up/down arrow keys, rather that having to double click with mouse - see first attachment

When I press Enter on a QV List item, it does a search on the QV list criteria - see second attachment. Is there some way I can prevent this, most apps treat Enter and double left mouse button click on list items as synonymous.

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