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Old 08-20-2013, 08:51 AM   #1
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Post support for IBM/360/370/S-390 code on the Kindles (KUAL)

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Those are more likely to work on a Kindle than files with: "IBM360" in their name.
The above quote was originally written as a joke.

It is real.
Not yet done with the configuration and set-up of the various K5 models but enough code has been run to know this will work.
Spoiler:

But stay tuned, support for IBM/360/370/S-390 code on the Kindles is being considered by twobob and myself.

This is not a promise of upcoming support, only a experiment for now:
http://www.hercules-390.eu/
{We where both running in 'sleep deprivation' mode when we discussed it.}

twobob did a great job on the cross-compile of Hercules.

All of the materials that may be used in this project are being pushed to public repositories. With a bit of re-organization as time passes:
All of these repositories are "dual admin'd" (twobob and myself) as is our policy.

The Disk Image files are too large to post as attachments here at MR, so an alternate distribution point will be established.
Most likely, from the KUAL web of http://wiki.knetconnect.com

This work is still using the K5/Hercules posted in the second post of this thread.

Meanwhile, for your reading pleasure, the documentation for the emulator is attached. The 'User Reference' pdf is a good starting point.

For those who might be interested in reusing broken screen Kindles as a cluster of K5/370 or K5/390 mainframes . . . .
Those mainframes communicate between each other using a 'channel-to-channel' adapter.
The HerculesNetworking.txt read-me document describes the CTC support available.
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EDIT: Okay all done:




The Hercules System/370, ESA/390, and z/Architecture Emulator

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Hercules is an open source software implementation of the mainframe System/370 and ESA/390 architectures, in addition to the latest 64-bit z/Architecture. Hercules runs under Linux, Windows, Solaris, FreeBSD, and Mac OS X.

Hercules is OSI Certified Open Source Software licensed under the terms of the Q Public Licence.

Hercules was created by Roger Bowler. Jay Maynard (“the Tron Guy”) was the maintainer from 2000 to 2012. Jan Jaeger designed and implemented many of the advanced features of Hercules, including dynamic reconfiguration, integrated console, interpretive execution and z/Architecture support. A dedicated crew of programmers is constantly at work implementing new features and fixing bugs.
UPSTREAM: http://www.hercules-390.eu/

REQUIRES: KTERM!!

This release includes a version that activates the HTTP port on 8081 - That version will add one folder to the ROOT of the kindle under /usr/share.

The other button (Non-HTTP) won't make any amendments to root.

Enjoy this mega retro mainframe release!


Further Images: http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/
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http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/cookbook/index.html

(read the rest of the thread if you want to find out the general discussions)

Thanks!

EDIT: (version 0.2)

Now includes a Client and several variations of boot.

The top button is the one most users would want.
Server (SILENT) + Client
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:17 AM   #3
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Thanks for the move.
I edited the post a bit so people know they are now in the right thread.

and for those who want to dream a bit:
http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/

That: Andy Norrie's 4 pack VM/370 system entry sounds interesting.
( VM/370 on a Kindle, what else can I say than: Tripping! )

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thanks Mike.

I meant to get round to that and got sidetracked.

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[root@kindle root]# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/mnt/us/extensions/hercules/lib/hercules:$LD
_LIBRARY_PATH /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/bin/hercules

Hercules Version 3.07
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Built on Jun 18 2011 at 16:18:09
Build information:
Debian
Modes: S/370 ESA/390 z/Arch
Max CPU Engines: 8
Using setresuid() for setting privileges
Dynamic loading support
Using shared libraries
HTTP Server support
Regular Expressions support
Automatic Operator support
National Language Support
Machine dependent assists: (none)
Running on kindle Linux-2.6.31-rt11-lab126.#1 Tue Jul 17 16:55:47 PDT 2012 armv7l UP
HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is /usr/lib/hercules
Crypto module loaded (c) Copyright Bernard van der Helm, 2003-2010
Active: Message Security Assist
Message Security Assist Extension 1
Message Security Assist Extension 2
HHCCF003S Open error file hercules.cnf: No such file or directory
HHCIN900I Begin Hercules shutdown
HHCIN901I Releasing configuration
HHCIN902I Configuration release complete
HHCIN903I Calling termination routines
HHCHD900I Begin shutdown sequence
HHCHD901I Calling hdl_term
HHCHD950I Begin HDL termination sequence
HHCHD951I Calling module *Hercules cleanup routine
HHCHD952I Module *Hercules cleanup complete
HHCHD959I HDL Termination sequence complete
HHCHD902I hdl_term complete
HHCHD901I Calling logger_term
HHCLG014I logger thread terminating
HHCHD902I logger_term complete
HHCHD909I Shutdown sequence complete
HHCIN904I All termination routines complete
HHCIN909I Hercules shutdown complete
HHCHD900I Begin shutdown sequence
HHCHD909I Shutdown sequence complete
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Heyy.. great..
I've not had the privilege of working on those systems.. though i've read up on them..

Since we're in a retro mood.. how about looking at a port of an emulator for the sinclair zx81..?
think twobob should remember some.. a silent, black and white home computer of the 80s..
since our latest kindle is also a silent, black and white(ok.. shades of grey.. )..

see: http://www.zx81.nl/
full sources: http://www.zx81.nl/dload/emulators/unix/z81-0.2.tar.gz
one more: http://www.aptanet.org/eightyone/
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Z81 - a ZX81 emulator for VGA PCs running Linux
xz81 - a ZX81 emulator for X
Z81txt - a text-mode ZX81 emulator for the Linux console

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BTW I used to work on IBM/1401 and IBM/1130... The 360's and after are an ambitious project.
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I run the spectrum simulator atm on my home machine.
will look at that - I did already try it once before. Will revisit.

I'm secretly (okay no longer secretly) wheedling away on getting Windows 95 to boot also (since last night).

project rumbling along.
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Heyy.. great..
I've not had the privilege of working on those systems.. though i've read up on them..

Since we're in a retro mood.. how about looking at a port of an emulator for the sinclair zx81..?
think twobob should remember some.. a silent, black and white home computer of the 80s..
since our latest kindle is also a silent, black and white(ok.. shades of grey.. )..

see: http://www.zx81.nl/
full sources: http://www.zx81.nl/dload/emulators/unix/z81-0.2.tar.gz
one more: http://www.aptanet.org/eightyone/
Well, since we both own multiple sets of Sinclair ZX81 devices, who needs an emulator?
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Heh.

Success

[root@kindle root]# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/mnt/us/extensions/hercules/lib/hercules:$LD
_LIBRARY_PATH /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/bin/hercules -f /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/hercules.cnf


Hercules Version 3.07
Code:
(c)Copyright 1999-2010 by Roger Bowler, Jan Jaeger, and others
Built on Jun 18 2011 at 16:18:09
Build information:
  Debian
  Modes: S/370 ESA/390 z/Arch
  Max CPU Engines: 8
  Using setresuid() for setting privileges
  Dynamic loading support
  Using shared libraries
  HTTP Server support
  Regular Expressions support
  Automatic Operator support
  National Language Support
  Machine dependent assists: (none)
Running on kindle Linux-2.6.31-rt11-lab126.#1 Tue Jul 17 16:55:47 PDT 2012 armv7l UP
HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is /usr/lib/hercules
Crypto module loaded (c) Copyright Bernard van der Helm, 2003-2010
  Active: Message Security Assist
          Message Security Assist Extension 1
          Message Security Assist Extension 2
HHCHT001I HTTP listener thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5539
HHCCF066E Invalid HTTPROOT: "/usr/share/hercules/": No such file or directory
HHCCF065I Hercules: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5539, pgid=5539, priority=0
HHCRD010E Unable to access file "./util/zzsacard.bin": No such file or directory
HHCCF044E Initialization failed for device 000C
HHCTE001I Console connection thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5539
HHCTE003I Waiting for console connection on port 3270
HHCTT002I Timer thread started: tid=44DC9470, pid=5539, priority=-20
HHCCP002I CPU0000 thread started: tid=44CC9470, pid=5539, priority=15
HHCCP003I CPU0000 architecture mode ESA/390
HHCPN001I Control panel thread started: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5539

  Automatic Operator support                                                   +
  National Language Support                                                     
  Machine dependent assists: (none)                                             
Running on kindle Linux-2.6.31-rt11-lab126.#1 Tue Jul 17 16:55:47 PDT 2012 armv7
HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is /usr/lib/hercules                        
Crypto module loaded (c) Copyright Bernard van der Helm, 2003-2010              
  Active: Message Security Assist                                               
          Message Security Assist Extension 1                                   
          Message Security Assist Extension 2                                   
HHCHT001I HTTP listener thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5539                  
HHCCF066E Invalid HTTPROOT: "/usr/share/hercules/": No such file or directory   
HHCCF065I Hercules: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5539, pgid=5539, priority=0               
HHCRD010E Unable to access file "./util/zzsacard.bin": No such file or directory
HHCCF044E Initialization failed for device 000C                                 
HHCTE001I Console connection thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5539             
HHCTE003I Waiting for console connection on port 3270                           
HHCTT002I Timer thread started: tid=44DC9470, pid=5539, priority=-20            
HHCCP002I CPU0000 thread started: tid=44CC9470, pid=5539, priority=15           
HHCCP003I CPU0000 architecture mode ESA/390                                     
HHCPN001I Control panel thread started: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5539                  
HHCAO001I Hercules Automatic Operator thread started;                           
          tid=45158470, pri=0, pid=5539                                         
Command ==>


Now, since I have no idea what I am doing....

I'll package it up.
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Shall I dynamically create that /usr/share/hercules/ and loopmount to the FAT?


Oh and I got the

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Error fixed up... Whatever that was for.
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BTW I used to work on IBM/1401 and IBM/1130... The 360's and after are an ambitious project.
Well, a small installation looked like this:


Not only did they not include the swivel chair, unlike the Kindle, they didn't make available a padded, zipper case.

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Shall I dynamically create that /usr/share/hercules/ and loopmount to the FAT?


Oh and I got the



Error fixed up... Whatever that was for.
I am not sure of that one - than may be where the OS is supposed to live.

The "success dump" shows that the "mainframe firmware" is ready to accept an IPL (or other) command to load the OS.

Check the Herc site, faq section, with links to a lot of "HowTo" continue beyond the IPL (Initial Program Load) command prompt.

Geesh, where is Geekmaster when you need him?
( He needs IBM Cobol for his day job.)

Translation:
Box it and Ship it as-is.
It is ready for the addition of user's choice of OS package (see my dream-link above).

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It looks like the:
Volker Bandke's Turnkey MVS iso image might be the easiest to try.
on page:
http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/

Or, since the Kindle isn't going to be running multiple user, maybe the DOS/TOS OS set.
(I am really out of my depth here.)
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Yeah....

The config line:
HTTPROOT /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/share/hercules # HTTP root directory

refuses to be serviced... for whatever reason?

So... Ill package it. as-is. with a link to
http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/turnkey-mvs-3.zip

as you kindly suggest.
And then move onto Win95

Quote:
[root@kindle hercules]# cd /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/; LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/mnt/us/extensions/hercules/lib/hercules:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/bin/hercules -f /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/hercules.cnf
Hercules Version 3.07
(c)Copyright 1999-2010 by Roger Bowler, Jan Jaeger, and others
Built on Jun 18 2011 at 16:18:09
Build information:
Debian
Modes: S/370 ESA/390 z/Arch
Max CPU Engines: 8
Using setresuid() for setting privileges
Dynamic loading support
Using shared libraries
HTTP Server support
Regular Expressions support
Automatic Operator support
National Language Support
Machine dependent assists: (none)
Running on kindle Linux-2.6.31-rt11-lab126.#1 Tue Jul 17 16:55:47 PDT 2012 armv7l UP
HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is /usr/lib/hercules
Crypto module loaded (c) Copyright Bernard van der Helm, 2003-2010
Active: Message Security Assist
Message Security Assist Extension 1
Message Security Assist Extension 2
HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/lib/hercules
HHCHT001I HTTP listener thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5557
HHCCF066E Invalid HTTPROOT: "/usr/share/hercules/": No such file or directory
HHCCF065I Hercules: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5557, pgid=5557, priority=0
HHCTE001I Console connection thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5557
HHCTE003I Waiting for console connection on port 3270
HHCTT002I Timer thread started: tid=44DC9470, pid=5557, priority=-20
HHCCP002I CPU0000 thread started: tid=44CC9470, pid=5557, priority=15
HHCCP003I CPU0000 architecture mode ESA/390
HHCPN001I Control panel thread started: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5557

Regular Expressions support +
Automatic Operator support
National Language Support
Machine dependent assists: (none)
Running on kindle Linux-2.6.31-rt11-lab126.#1 Tue Jul 17 16:55:47 PDT 2012 armv7
HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is /usr/lib/hercules
Crypto module loaded (c) Copyright Bernard van der Helm, 2003-2010
Active: Message Security Assist
Message Security Assist Extension 1
Message Security Assist Extension 2
HHCHD018I Loadable module directory is /mnt/us/extensions/hercules/lib/hercules
HHCHT001I HTTP listener thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5557
HHCCF066E Invalid HTTPROOT: "/usr/share/hercules/": No such file or directory
HHCCF065I Hercules: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5557, pgid=5557, priority=0
HHCTE001I Console connection thread started: tid=40B8F470, pid=5557
HHCTE003I Waiting for console connection on port 3270
HHCTT002I Timer thread started: tid=44DC9470, pid=5557, priority=-20
HHCCP002I CPU0000 thread started: tid=44CC9470, pid=5557, priority=15
HHCCP003I CPU0000 architecture mode ESA/390
HHCPN001I Control panel thread started: tid=4001D1F0, pid=5557
HHCAO001I Hercules Automatic Operator thread started;
tid=45158470, pri=0, pid=5557
Command ==>
CPU0000 PSW=0000000000000000 24M....... instcount=0
But yeah. Works great. (I think)

When I package it up: Maybe add the OPTION to loopmount the "Invalid HTTPROOT:" to something sensible.? Or perhaps I'll just hardcode that.

the impact on the "Root" will be the creation of one innocuous folder.
Hardly devastating.

: )

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