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Old 07-19-2013, 06:36 PM   #1
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Are bookstores still worth fighting for?

E-book sales are skyrocketing and we've all seen the disruptive impact this has on established businesses. There's no telling if bookstores will survive for another few years, but author Stephen Booth suggests that it's important we continue to support them:

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If print books were to disappear, the sad fact is that I wouldn't be sitting in a bookshop ready to sign your Kindle when a new book came out. There wouldn't even be a bookshop for me to sit in.

So if, like me, you want to see books flourishing in all their forms, it's vital to support the booksellers who continue to be the mainstay of the publishing business.

And remember – bookshops pay their taxes too!
Do we need our local bookshops and should we try to support them, or have they simply outlived their usefulness? What do you think?

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Old 07-19-2013, 07:10 PM   #2
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Do we need our local bookshops and should we try to support them, or have they simply outlived their usefulness? What do you think?
I don't need them. I'm completely digital. I feel the same way about libraries.

That said, I won't actively campaign to eliminate either. I'll just sit back and let technology take its course. Eventually, like all good dinosaurs, they'll become a used-to-be.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:22 PM   #3
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That is such a sad picture. I'm going to have to start spending time in our local bookstores again—the ones we have left, that is.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:24 PM   #4
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That is such a sad picture. I'm going to have to start spending time in our local bookstores again—the ones we have left, that is.
Replace the shelves with a bank of servers and all is well again
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:08 PM   #5
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I'm quite sure we'll always have bookstores. Most people still prefer printed books. Maybe we'll loose some chain stores, but that doesn't really matter. (Well, for the employees it does matter.) Books are essential for a cultivated environment.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:50 PM   #6
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I suspect that the nature of bookstores will change, but that they'll still be around.

One thing that people need to remember is that ebooks only work well for certain types of publications or for audiences that access those publications in a particular way. (Example: novels work well since they are easy to format for everything from mobile phones and tablets to ereaders. Technical publications only work well on tablets or computers, which only works well for a subset of the population.)

Specialist bookstores will probably become a larger part of the market. General bookstores will probably shift towards best sellers, non-fiction, and children's books.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:52 PM   #7
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I suspect that the nature of bookstores will change, but that they'll still be around.
They already have. The local Books a Million has allocated at least half of it's square footage to non book inventory.
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Do we need our local bookshops and should we try to support them, or have they simply outlived their usefulness? What do you think?
+ 1 in favour of continuing to support bookstores and paper books

+ 1 in favour of public libraries carrying both the paper and ebook versions of all the books that they (the library) carry.

I will continue to buy the paper book versions of any text books that I require because an ebook just can't be manipulated the same way half as efficiently as a textbook with respect to marking text, writing in the margins and flipping between pages etc.

Also, books that I purchase for their pictures/drawings etc - definitely paper books only. Think art books, design and architecture styles etc. Ebooks can not do those books justice.

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Old 07-19-2013, 09:40 PM   #9
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Theoretically I'd like to see bookstores survive and flourish, but in practice I won't do anything to help that happen. Like tubemonkey I'm pretty much all digital today and those few paper books I still buy I can't find in shops anyway.

Around here, likely in response to the digital age, the bookstores have all changed for the worse. A smaller selection of books, with a greater proportion being bestsellers and "light reading" and ever more gifts and pointless knick knacks cluttering the shelves and displays. The one positive change is the addition of cafès to a few of them. It doesn't make me buy any more books, but if the coffee is good I'll at least spend some money on that. And there's one that also does a mean home-made cheesecake...

Like Mr. Sharpe I actually find the slow, painful demise of the bookstore quite sad, but I think it is inevitable that it will largely be a thing of the past in two or three more decades. It will certainly linger on in a small way for very much longer than that, or even "forever", but the generation growing up today has no bias in favour of physical books (or music, or movies, or magazines, or...) and the sales of printed matter of all kinds will only continue to drop.

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I'm quite sure we'll always have bookstores. Most people still prefer printed books. ... Books are essential for a cultivated environment.
I really can't see it. In my experience, most people prefer printed books because they've never tried electronic books. Once they do, again in my (limited) experience most people are almost always near-instant converts.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:41 PM   #10
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I am working with a 23 year old university student who is studying English Literature. She wants nothing to do with ebooks. More than 1/2 the people I see reading books are reading paper. Of course many of the people poking away quickly at their phones and tablets may just like to poke books while they read them.

I love ebooks and no longer want to read paper books, but get a nostalgic wanting feeling when I do go into a bookstore and see all the shiny covers.

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Old 07-20-2013, 04:10 AM   #11
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I try to support my local bookstore, it has charme and a special atmosphere. I would be sad if it had to close, for the bookstore itself but for the street too. We don't need another bank or pharmacy or shoe shop or another chain there.
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:32 AM   #12
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My local B&M bookstore's largely inaccessible, so no, I'm not fighting for it.
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Tomorrow I will receive a "paper" book but ordered from Amazon.

so 50% compliant to theme with that.

I do peruse books stores still.

Subscribe many "paper" magazines.

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Since printed books are still the vast majority of books published there is no need to visit a bookstore "to support them". If you'd like to visit a bookstore you should do that to get inspired with new books and ideas that you won't find online.
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Somehow I feel I should support bookshops, they were important to me once, but I'm not sure it if matters anymore. I bought my e-reader at a bookshop, and that bookshop gets a commission on any ebooks I buy from Kobo (which is about half the ebooks I buy), so they are probably getting more money from me now than they did before I switched to ebooks.

But it is really authors and public libraries I want to support now, not bookshops.
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