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Old 04-01-2014, 07:08 PM   #1
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Onyx Boox M96 vs M92

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With M96 apparently scheduled to be coming soon I'm considering an upgrade and I would like to ask those in the know what advantages will M96 provide over M92, especially when it comes to handling books/documents, the core function of the device.

Here are the differences that were mentioned on this forum:

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 |      M96                               M92                            |
 | * rockchip A8 1GHz processor      * iMX 508 Processor (800Mhz Cortex) |
 | * DDR3 512MB                      * 256 MB DDR                        |
 | * Android 2.3                     * Linux                             |
 | * 85Hz refresh rate carta screen  * 50Hz refresh rate pearl screen    |
 | * resolution: ?                   * resolution: 1200px x 825px        |
 |                                                                       |
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I suppose, that running Android means that the killer "multitasking" feature will now come for free as it is implemented in the operating system. So opening several books at once will just work.

I assume, that we will also be able to run apk files as well as anything from the Google Play store, like for example, a decent web browser, a reader of your choice, perhaps the Kindle reader?

Will having more RAM enhance the user experience in any way?

Does a slightly faster processor of a different make make any noticeable difference when it comes to the time needed for opening books or page turns?

I was most puzzled about and interested in the next item in the table, though, the advantages of the "carta screen". I found some vague answers on eInk's website and also a comparison of pearl and carta screens.

I guess the 85Hz vs 50 Hz is what eInk describes as:

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the new Regal technology for page updates. Regal virtually eliminates the need for a full page refresh giving the reader smoother page transitions for more focused reading.
So smother page transitions but does it mean faster too?

Finally, will M96 offer a greater screen resolution than its predecessor?
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:24 AM   #2
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I know very little about the M96, but I certainly wouldn't take Google Play Store access for granted. AFAIK Google restricts access to devices that meet its hardware requirements, and I would be surprised if the M96 was qualified. However, you should be able to sideload apks from other sources.
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I've read somewhere that the resolution will be the same.

I think that for Android, you need more RAM and more speed, so I don't wait a big surprise for the user experience.
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Where is it mentioned that it will have carta screen tech?

Resolution will be the same as M92 : 1200 x 825
It was confirmed by Zeng in this post http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=88

According to this image, M96 will have pearl screen and 4.0 OS
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

I am assuming that the reason for changing the processor has more to do with old processor's incompatibility with android etc.

Increased RAM should be a good thing but android system will also require more RAM to function optimally.

Bottleneck is again E-ink screen, which will take long time to refresh and load new information.

I am also looking forward to M96 for these reasons:
Android, Multitasking, Better Dictionary Support, More Reading Apps beside the usual three, Fast Refresh Mode implemented by Onyx (This mode should be very useful for web browsing), More Cloud Support, I am also assuming that Bluetooth support will let us connect keyboard.

It will most probably be a good ereader, but i was expecting much more after 2 and half years wait

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Old 04-02-2014, 06:28 PM   #5
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The carta screen was also mentioned by Zeng here.

That's what I thought about the CPU and RAM, an upgrade forced by Android. It will be interesting to see what impact this will have on the battery life, which if to trust the specs sheet remains of the same capacity.

Hopefully, we won't have to jump through hoops in order to install an app of our choice. I have enough of rooting etc. It's a massive PITA and waste of life.

Yes, it's been a long time. Even though I'm excited that there are signs of progress I was expecting a bit more too. I would welcome if not a faster or whiter then at least higher resolution screen. The eInk's website lists three 9.7" pearl models: 1200 x 825, 1600 x 1200, and 2400 x 1650. I'm wondering what extra cost would employing the middle one incur.

I get the feeling that Onyx and others are influenced by the tablet crowd, who would not buy an ereader even if was half price of their slabs anyway, and balance the specs to make their devices priced not too far from the tablets.
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It will be great if M96 will have carta screen tech. I would like to have an HD version if extra cost isn't more than 100 USD.
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I don't know how this works but if plugging a different resolution screen to a reader is just like plugging a different screen to a regular PC then Onyx could release both the cheaper standard resolution and more expensive high resolution versions with little extra overhead on their side. That would give their customers some choice.
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I agree, two versions can be sold; yet if that does not happen, can we not install a high resolution screen on the product? Maybe Onyx/ Zeng can suggest compatible screens?

Also, that message says that the release date would be in March, there is a delay now I assume?
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Old 04-10-2014, 05:29 AM   #9
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I was thinking about the same. However, it's unlikely such component can be bought the same way as other accessories like a stylus or a cover, you probably need to make a wholesale order. In which case if Onyx do not release their new reader with different screen options then perhaps we could speak with Booxtor about the possibility of buying a different screen from his shop. All of that assuming that the screens are of a plug'n'play sort.

Regarding the release date, I've recently asked Booxtor about that and he said M96/T68 would be *delivered* in 2-3 weeks due to the engineers putting the finishing touches to the readers. This does not mean the devices will be available for sale right away. I suppose, Booxtor will want to play with them a little bit before offering them to the public to make sure everything is top notch.

I for one would appreciate some more official news from Onyx channels...

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Thank you very much for the info machino! Asking booxtor for different screens makes a lot of sense too...
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Wow! Is Booxtor around here still? I was under the impresion that he was long gone...
Totally agree that Onyx are really bad communicating. They need a better PR team. Their products have lots of potential but so-so software (at least in the m92 which is what I know) and bad marketing are making them lose lots of money. At least I think so.
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