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Old 06-11-2013, 11:29 PM   #16
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But oh keen round bird isn't that a common complaint about the Android devices?
All those different flavors on each device. All those versions and altered versions of Droid OSs.

I recall also the complaints when MS Windows tried to make all previous models, hardware and software, compliant with the latest version of software.
Shouldn't Apple have just said, that the new iOS7 was for the next so and so devices and all previous models are fine as they are and users have to adapt to the future.
The problem is that the latest (and most) apps from iTunes won't even install on the older OS's, such as what's on my 2nd Gen iPod Touch, which is less than four years old. There's a few apps that won't install on older versions of Android, but not as much as what I've seen from Apple.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:45 PM   #17
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The problem is that the latest (and most) apps from iTunes won't even install on the older OS's, such as what's on my 2nd Gen iPod Touch, which is less than four years old. There's a few apps that won't install on older versions of Android, but not as much as what I've seen from Apple.
Software eventually kills off older devices. Looking at the list of supported devices shows that iOS 7 won't run on any device with less than 512 MB of RAM.
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The problem is that the latest (and most) apps from iTunes won't even install on the older OS's, such as what's on my 2nd Gen iPod Touch, which is less than four years old. There's a few apps that won't install on older versions of Android, but not as much as what I've seen from Apple.
I can see it now. A faintly glimmering pallid figure rising from the tomb, and saying:

"Look you fools! Don't you get it? This is MAGIC! With magic, you cut some things in HALF and you make other things DISAPPEAR!

Now go buy our latest devices and stop complaining!"
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:00 AM   #19
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The problem is that the latest (and most) apps from iTunes won't even install on the older OS's, such as what's on my 2nd Gen iPod Touch, which is less than four years old. There's a few apps that won't install on older versions of Android, but not as much as what I've seen from Apple.
And I just sold off a three year old Android tablet because I couldn't get 80% of the Apps to run that I have on a Galaxy 2 and Nexus 7... I guess every 8 in 10 isn't that much then...

Oh yes, the tablet couldn't even be updated to a later version of Android because the manufacturer no longer supported it and its "tweaked" Android OS...

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Yes, it is accurate. Apple is dishonest when it says that the iPhone 4 will get iOS7 but neglects to put the asterisk that indicates some features of iOS7 are not available on the iPhone 4.

This is just Apple's way of masking their own fragmentation issue but in a way that confuses the consumer.
Actually if anyone actually bothered to do their research ON the Apple site, its there, clearly, in black and white, what works and what doesn't on each device.

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Features are subject to change. Not all features are available on all devices.
Panorama format is available on iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, and iPod touch (5th generation). Square and video formats and swipe to capture are available on iPhone 4 or later, iPad (3rd generation or later), iPad mini, and iPod touch (5th generation).
Filters in Camera are available on iPhone 5 and iPod touch (5th generation). Filters in Photos are available on iPhone 4 or later, iPad (3rd generation or later), iPad mini, and iPod touch (5th generation).
AirDrop is available on iPhone 5, iPad (4th generation), iPad mini, and iPod touch (5th generation) and requires an iCloud account.
Siri is available on iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad with Retina display, iPad mini, and iPod touch (5th generation) and requires Internet access. Siri may not be available in all languages or in all areas, and features may vary by area. Cellular data charges may apply. New female and male voices will be available initially in U.S. English, French, and German.
Find My iPhone enables you to locate iOS devices only when they are on and connected to a registered Wi-Fi network or have an active data plan. Some features may not be available for all countries or all areas.
iCloud requires iOS 5 or later on iPhone 3GS or later, iPod touch (3rd generation or later), iPad, or iPad mini; a Mac computer with OS X Lion or later; or a PC with Windows 7 or Windows 8 (Outlook 2007 or later or an up-to-date browser is required for accessing email, contacts, and calendars). Some features require iOS 7 and OS X Mavericks. Some features require a Wi-Fi connection. Some features are not available in all countries. Access to some services is limited to 10 devices.
at http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/features/

Seems to me that people just want to complain. I have a 4S and the couple of features missing are not features I actually care about.... filters in camera? jeez. who cares. and if you do, there are a BAZILLION free apps to do the same thing, as well as many paid ones which do it better.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:58 AM   #21
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:43 AM   #22
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Actually if anyone actually bothered to do their research ON the Apple site, its there, clearly, in black and white, what works and what doesn't on each device.



at http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/features/

Seems to me that people just want to complain. I have a 4S and the couple of features missing are not features I actually care about.... filters in camera? jeez. who cares. and if you do, there are a BAZILLION free apps to do the same thing, as well as many paid ones which do it better.
But some people are not happy unless they are complaining!

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But some people are not happy unless they are complaining!

It's not really about complaining, since the people in question do not and never will own or use Apple products. It's about lying to and manipulating others to discourage them from doing so.
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Things like AirPlay will not be available on certain devices because they do not have the chipset to support it is my understanding, not because Apple chooses not to. Is that correct?

People are not understanding why a recently released iPad 3 will not have it, it is because it cannot. Then to me it was smart to take the 3 off the market when they did instead of later.

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It's not really about complaining, since the people in question do not and never will own or use Apple products. It's about lying to and manipulating others to discourage them from doing so.
I would not say it is about manipulating anyone. For one would hope that if someone was contemplating buying a product that costs that much, they would do their own due diligence.
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It's not really about complaining, since the people in question do not and never will own or use Apple products. It's about lying to and manipulating others to discourage them from doing so.
That sounds heinous!

I hope that it hasn't happened to you.
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It's not really about complaining, since the people in question do not and never will own or use Apple products. It's about lying to and manipulating others to discourage them from doing so.
Trust the monkey when he says that Android is better
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That sounds heinous!

I hope that it hasn't happened to you.
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That sounds heinous!

I hope that it hasn't happened to you.
Heinous? More like pitiful.

Part of the intent is to deceive others, but another part is to justify one's own purchasing decisions through constant repetition of scripted tropes, however inaccurate.
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It's not really about complaining, since the people in question do not and never will own or use Apple products. It's about lying to and manipulating others to discourage them from doing so.
Couldn't it just be a conversation without this ploy?
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