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Old 01-28-2014, 12:32 PM   #1
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New players in the ePub editor market ...

Two new ePub editors have come to life (or rather one, since they obviously are the same software under different names and version-numbers :

Coolmuster SignPub: http://www.coolmuster.com/signpub.html

and

iStonsoft ePub Editor Pro: http://www.istonsoft.com/epub-editor.html#

I've tried them both (for about ten minutes ) and find them lacking things as spellcheck, filesplitting, sourcecode editing etc., which we are used to in Sigil and the Calibre Editor. Given that, I find the price tags of $ 49.95 and $ 35.95 a wee bit stiff.

Also, I have previously mentioned the Fosfor ePub editor https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/en...b_open_toolbox, but sadly the programmer doesn't seem to do any work on it (Despite his claims to the opposite, nothing has been done for around 9 months).

I stumbled upon this http://www.epubgen.com/software some time last year, but there doesn't seem to be a real, downloable piece of software to download, despite the nice pictures ... strange ...

Regards,

Kim
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It's licensed with this one: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0-standalone.html

No attribution, they made a derived work and charged for it as if it were their own. So unless he gave over the rights (is it licensed to him? He is the lead developer, but he didn't originally create it, he took over.) they are illegal.
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Is that legal?
According to the FSF, yes, but they must also release the modified source code:

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If I use a piece of software that has been obtained under the GNU GPL, am I allowed to modify the original code into a new program, then distribute and sell that new program commercially?

You are allowed to sell copies of the modified program commercially, but only under the terms of the GNU GPL. Thus, for instance, you must make the source code available to the users of the program as described in the GPL, and they must be allowed to redistribute and modify it as described in the GPL.

These requirements are the condition for including the GPL-covered code you received in a program of your own.
IIRC, someone tried to do the same with Calibre, but I don't remember what the outcome was.
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According to the FSF, yes, but they must also release the modified source code:
Not "release", but provide it free of charge to anyone who legally got the binary and asks for the source code.
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Both sites are very similar and both use the same assets (screen shots). Even a lot of their products appear to be the same. Most likely they're really the same.

That said, yes it is a GPL violation if they're using Sigil's code and not releasing it. Unfortunately, there isn't very much that can can be done. Some of you might remember that we had this happen with calibre. My options are 1) try to sue them, 2) publicly shame them into doing the right thing. 1) is costly, time consuming and if they're not in the USA (where I am) it might not be an option at all. 2) This only works the violators actually want to do the right thing.

This is the reality of the situation. While it sucks, it is what it is.
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I don't think they're in the US. There are a lot of strange English phrasings on the web sites if you read carefully. How strange that coolMuster and iStonsoft are so similar. Almost like some kind of web site sock-puppeting.

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