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Old 04-23-2013, 04:18 PM   #1
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Question epub to epub for padding removal

Hello all,

I have trouble with my ebook reader when any padding information is included in the epub document. WHen "padding" is included it ignores any "margin" information. Unfortunately most of my epub's include "padding-top/bottom:0;" in .calbre and so all the margins are shown as 0. Drives me crazy

So I thought to reconvert all my epubs to epub using calibre with the style info "padding" option activated.

Ok, then it removes "padding-top/bottom:0;" in .calibre but includes it in .calibre1 which is used for standard formatting. Great .

Original:
Quote:
.calibre {
font-size: 1em;
margin-bottom: 0.5em;
margin-top: 0.5em;
padding-bottom: 0;
padidng-top: 0
}
.calibre1 {
font-size: 2em;
margin-bottom: 1em;
margin-top: 1em;
}
Converted:
Quote:
.calibre {
display: block;
font-size: 1em;
margin-bottom: 0;
margin-left: 5pt;
margin-right: 5pt;
margin-top: 0;
text-align: justify
}
.calibre1 {
border-bottom: 0;
border-top: 0;
display: block;
margin-bottom: 0.5em;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 0.5em;
padding-bottom: 0;
padding-top: 0;
text-indent: 0.5em
}
To put it short: How do I get rid of any padding info in the stylesheet?

Thanks for any help...


Mart


PS: I tried "Other CSS options" already, even tried different output format (at least: Generic, Pocketbook 900, Sony xxx 300). I try to avoid changing all my ebooks by hand, that would be something for next winter...
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:24 AM   #2
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I have trouble with my ebook reader when any padding information is included in the epub document. WHen "padding" is included it ignores any "margin" information.
This does sound very odd behaviour for a reader. Is it a known problem with the Pocketbook Touch?

One simple way is to edit the stylesheet/s using the Tweak Book function in calibre. You don't need to do a conversion first, but be sure to take a backup of your book before tweaking it.

I realise that this is 'changing by hand' but it is quite straightforward.
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Since you obviously are aware of what a stylesheet can do, I would use Agama's advice.

I also find it odd that a device FAILS on valid styling. Ignore is permissable

Code:
padding: 0
is the short form for set all padding to 0
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This does sound very odd behaviour for a reader. Is it a known problem with the Pocketbook Touch?
Don't know yet. I thought it would be easier to get rid of the padding by calibre. Then I could have changed the margin in the same concersion.
I'll ask in the pocketbook forum later.

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I also find it odd that a device FAILS on valid styling. Ignore is permissable
It looks (after some more tests) that Pocketbook Touch is IGNORING "margin" setting when "padding" setting is done. Also some kind of ignoring .

Code:
padding-top: 0; margin-top:0.5em;
With this it sets the distance to 0 instead of 0.5em.

Based on my (limited) stylesheet knowledge that should not happen.


Thanks for your help.
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Perhaps you could make a one page ePub which demonstrates the problem, with screen shots showing how your reading displays margins without padding specified and then with padding specified. I'm just wondering if a bit more context may help give some insight into what's going on here - hence posting a full ePub rather than just code snippets.

I'm still surprised that any reader would mess up the margin style simply because of the presence of padding.

(You can generate some random paragraph text from http://www.lipsum.com/)

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Strange behaviour
The box model (section 8 of CSS2) layers:

Margin
border
padding
content

are you sure that you are not introducing a CSS error. Adobe (MRSDK) is famous for tossing the whole CSS if it runs into many errors.
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