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Old 04-08-2013, 08:58 PM   #16
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At this time the US has already committed to a switch to life plus 70 so that will protect Mickey for a few more years.
IIRC, its life plus 70 only for non-corporate holdings. Copyrights held by businesses (like Mickey) are life plus 120.
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IIRC, its life plus 70 only for non-corporate holdings. Copyrights held by businesses (like Mickey) are life plus 120.
Who's life? A business can live a long time

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We will need a constitutional amendment to fix this problem. Disney is bound and determined not to let Mickey Mouse go into to public domain. If you don't know, this is the reason copyright keeps getting extended.
Not really. A reason, yes, the most visible lobbyist, yes, but hardly the only one.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:06 PM   #19
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Mickey Mouse does have a permanent trademark.
Or, kinda. Permanent and indefinite aren't actually the same thing. Trademarks last as long as they are in use, but are not in any way permanent.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:14 PM   #20
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IIRC, its life plus 70 only for non-corporate holdings. Copyrights held by businesses (like Mickey) are life plus 120.
No. Corporate copyright are 95 years from first publication or 120 years from creation. There is no "life plus" involved, no variables. (This is for works created or published prior to 1978. For works created or published prior to 1978, it's a bit more complicated, but the executive summary is that 95/120 are the maximum copyright terms. All works published in the US prior to January 1, 1923 are public domain. Works published after that are only in the public domain if their copyright expired without renewal.)
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:42 PM   #21
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We will need a constitutional amendment to fix this problem. Disney is bound and determined not to let Mickey Mouse go into to public domain. If you don't know, this is the reason copyright keeps getting extended. The constitution forbids a permanent copyright so it needs to be changed to protect Mickey.
Disney should be allowed to keep Mickey as long as they want.
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:06 AM   #22
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Disney should be allowed to keep Mickey as long as they want.
I'd only give him to them in perpetuity if we got them to sign a contract barring them from any kind of lobbying again.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:08 AM   #23
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Let me guess: J.D. Salinger won't be appearing in their archives any time soon.
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:14 AM   #24
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Let me guess: J.D. Salinger won't be appearing in their archives any time soon.
Why do you have to "guess"? You can work it out for yourself. Mr Salinger died in 2010. The US is now a country with a life+70 copyright law, so, just as in most other countries, his works will enter the US public domain on 1st Jan 2081.
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Why do you have to "guess"? You can work it out for yourself. Mr Salinger died in 2010. The US is now a country with a life+70 copyright law, so, just as in most other countries, his works will enter the US public domain on 1st Jan 2081.
'Probably not in the lifetime of anyone reading this post' counts as not any time soon!
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'Probably not in the lifetime of anyone reading this post' counts as not any time soon!
It certainly does It was actually the "guessing" element of the post that my comment related to, not the time span.
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Why do you have to "guess"? You can work it out for yourself. Mr Salinger died in 2010. The US is now a country with a life+70 copyright law, so, just as in most other countries, his works will enter the US public domain on 1st Jan 2081.
No, It's not nearly that simple. The U.S. can't ever do anything related to copyright in a straght forward manner. Everything published before 1978 uses the old rules and becomes public domain in the U.S. 95 years after first publication.

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No, It's not nearly that simple. The U.S. can't ever do anything related to copyright in a straght forward manner. Everything published before 1978 uses the old rules and becomes public domain in the U.S. 95 years after first publication.

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Drat. Thanks for the correction . That's not nearly as bad then: "The Catcher in the Rye" should enter the US public domain in 2046, if I've done my sums right.

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Disney should be allowed to keep Mickey as long as they want.

I would only agree that was fair if Disney donates all the money it's made off of public domain works to the EFF or the Library of Congress.

Which would be nearly all of it.

Why should a corporation that made its pile o' money FROM the public domain be exempt from contributing TO the public domain?
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