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Old 03-19-2013, 08:55 AM   #1
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Are DRM infections dying out?

Is it just me or are more and more ebooks showing up without DRM complicating the ereading experience?

It is getting so that when I purchase a new ebook and try to remove the
infection, the process fails because there is no infection there. Then I am
sitting there trying to figure out what "went wrong", until the I finally notice
the healthy condition of the book.

It's not just the lessor known authors either, I just bought Orson Scott Card's
"The Lost Gate" from Barns & Noble and No DRM! What is the world coming to
when you try to jump through a hoop and it evaporates in your face?

Are we able to look forward to a time when healthy ebooks are the norm and
no curative measures required?

Luck;
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:10 AM   #2
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Yeah for no DRM! In the Netherlands, as of the beginning of this year, we now have about 85% DRM-free books, including international bestsellers and all. My non-Dutch books come from Amazon, but I can't tell if they have DRM
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:13 AM   #3
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I certainly hope so!!

I was just reading about TOR dropping their DRM requirements, and I'm sure other publishers will follow soon...it's such a money waster for them.

I MUCH prefer to buy from people who don't treat me like a criminal. I refuse to buy gas at locations that require me to pay before I can pump just because someone else has driven off without paying. I like the simple statement that some author's use: We are providing this book DRM free so that you can enjoy the book...please don't pirate it.

Now, if they would only lower the prices to reflect the money they are NOT spending on DRM...

Oh yeah - thanks for the reminder that Gate Thief book 2 is out today. Yay!!
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:21 AM   #4
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what is DRM if you are getting books without infection what is the problem do you want it to be infected with some malware
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:32 AM   #5
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I wish the phrase "DRM infection" would hurry up and die out.
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Old 03-20-2013, 04:46 AM   #6
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How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.
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Old 03-20-2013, 05:02 AM   #7
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My non-Dutch books come from Amazon, but I can't tell if they have DRM
At Amazon, if it states "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited" in the Product Details section on the e-book's product page, that means it does not have DRM.
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Old 03-20-2013, 05:09 AM   #8
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How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.
Yes. That the only sutiation I understand DRM -> renting.

But not for buying...
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:12 AM   #9
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I've bought 28 ebooks this year and only 1 of them had no DRM. So no, in my experience it's not going away.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:05 AM   #10
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How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.
Our library has a growing selection of "Open Epub" books, I've borrowed a few of them, DRM-free.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:07 AM   #11
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Our library has a growing selection of "Open Epub" books, I've borrowed a few of them, DRM-free.
If you have borrowed a library book, it contains DRM - you appear to be suggesting that because the book can be read on a large number of devices, it doesn't have DRM; without DRM, a library book cannot be returned to the library. DRM allows the library book to have a 'timer' within it that counts how long you've had it checked out for.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:40 AM   #12
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Our library has a growing selection of "Open Epub" books, I've borrowed a few of them, DRM-free.
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If you have borrowed a library book, it contains DRM - you appear to be suggesting that because the book can be read on a large number of devices, it doesn't have DRM; without DRM, a library book cannot be returned to the library. DRM allows the library book to have a 'timer' within it that counts how long you've had it checked out for.
I believe that spindlegirl is correct.

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... you appear to be suggesting that because the book can be read on a large number of devices, it doesn't have DRM...
She isn't suggesting that. There is no DRM on an Open EPub.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:01 AM   #13
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Here is the definition of Open eBooks from OverDrive's press release when the new format was announced. These books still mean one copy = one user for check-out. They cannot be returned early like DRM'ed books which has been a recent topic of discussion on MR.

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Open eBooks: DRM-free eBooks in both EPUB and PDF formats are being added to OverDrive's catalog for libraries. These OverDrive Open eBooks will be compatible with nearly any eBook reader or software that can display EPUB and PDF files. Titles from Harlequin's Carina Press, Saddleback Educational Publishing, and Rourke Publishing will be among the first DRM-free eBooks available to libraries.

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Old 03-20-2013, 11:25 AM   #14
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There is no DRM on open epub books. Occasionally I've forgotten I had the book and deleted it months later. I also was able to convert it to mobi and read it on my kindle during the time. With drm-free books it is up to the borrower to respect the guidelines.
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How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.
Actually I downloaded an audiobook from my library's Overdrive server recently and was pretty surprised to note that it was just regular mp3 files - no DRM at all. This was for a popular, big-publishing-house title first released a few years ago.
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